Ep. 97 Embracing the Path of an Empath:

[00:00:06] I'm Michele Simms and this is The Beauty in the Mess, a community where people who crave a shift in mindset, personal growth, and connection to like-minded people come together to start rewriting their stories. Through engaging, honest, and insightful conversations, the show will help you embrace the mess to recognize the meanings and the lessons it holds and discover its hidden treasures to help you start making a mindset shift. Let's listen, learn, and reclaim who we were meant to be.

[00:00:33] Hi friend, welcome to The Beauty in the Mess. In this conversation I got to sit down with Andy Kozlowski, a coach for Empaths, and we talked about his personal journey and the methods he employs to help others thrive. We also explore the themes of transformation, mind mastery, and overcoming negative programming. Andy details his path to becoming a coach and the importance of grounding

[00:00:59] and energy pathways and the power of faith in achieving personal goals. The conversation also delves into methods for reprogramming the mind, the significance of our emotions, and the impact of environment on our well-being. Andy also shares insights on meditation, epigenetics, and the holistic approaches he employs in his coaching practice. Andy went from being an anxious kid unable to cope with

[00:01:25] social settings to living freely in Thailand. He went from a soul-sucking high-end IT manager job to a coach for sensitive people, and he also has a few companies and does real estate on the side. He has a diverse educational background, delving into psychology, clinical dietetics, personal training, neuro-linguistic programming, hypnosis, Silva method techniques, career coaching, and business coaching.

[00:01:53] His quest for sustainable solutions led him to the guidance of many diverse mentors as well. He has clocked over 7,000 hours in meditation and 600 hours in training. Hi, I'm Michelle Sims, your host. I'm just a regular person who, along with my family, have had our share of messes that we too have had to overcome. Along the way, I got curious as to how others get through

[00:02:18] their messes and even triumph over them. Maybe there's a better way, a faster way. Maybe we can accelerate our journeys by learning from someone else. That started my pursuit. I think we can all learn from each other through the sharing of our experiences, lessons, and knowledge. So join me for episode 97 of The Beauty and the Mess, called Embracing the Path of an Empath, Mind Mastery, Healing, and Spiritual

[00:02:43] Growth with Andy Kozlowski. So without further ado, let's dive right into today's conversation. Hi Andy, welcome to The Beauty and the Mess. I'm so glad to have you with me today. Thank you for having me, Michelle. Believe me, the pleasure is all mine. And as you can see, I'm a mess in this beautiful world. So it would be a fantastic conversation. It would act as this

[00:03:06] beacon of light and hope to show people that nothing is set in stone and you can always change because nothing lasts forever. So if you're struggling with some days that are worse than usual, remember having a bad day doesn't mean you have a bad life. That's very true. And I think a lot of times we get lost in that moment, don't we? Yes. And we feel like it's never going to get better. Yeah,

[00:03:35] absolutely. Now, I know that you're a coach for Empaths. Before we get started with everything today, I wanted if you would tell us kind of your, some of your personal journey of what led you to become a coach for Empaths. Just the high points. Wow. Okay. Let's see how long it will take. So my journey started with the first step as our journey started. And when I was very little,

[00:04:02] I realized that I'm different than other people. I can see more, I can feel more, and I can sense more. And since I was the only one perceiving reality through those lenses, I came to the only possible solution there was. That I'm crazy. So I started this journey because I'm an empath myself.

[00:04:28] And I wanted to find something that would explain why I'm feeling what I'm feeling to make me whole again. Kind of like this holy grail search. But the truth is, God doesn't make mistakes. Everything between heaven and earth is perfect. So my search didn't yield any tangible result.

[00:04:54] Although I've started countless modalities since the intention was bad in the first place. I was still a last kid. Hopefully, due to good karma from previous incarnation, I have been able to cross paths with many different masters. They have been patient enough to teach me

[00:05:18] properly. Thank you very much. And I realized that this all internal conflict is between me and me. I'm fighting against my thoughts, emotions, and eventually the universe. And by just letting go of who I should be,

[00:05:39] I became who I am. And then the real joy of living started. It's every day I'm blessed with countless abundance, possibilities and gifts from the universe. Because God appreciates those that do his bidding and became actors on the main stage of life and not allowed the ego to interfere with the process.

[00:06:08] So since I was able to do that, everyone is able to do that. And now I'm teaching my fellow impasse how not only survive, but to thrive as well. So why do you feel your intention was bad in the beginning? Hmm. Because I thought that there is something wrong with me and there isn't.

[00:06:30] Okay. God, nature doesn't make mistakes. It was my ego, my mind using me and telling me, look, you're different than anyone else. There's obviously something wrong with you. But that idea itself is crazy. Like huge, judge, and elephant by duck's ability to fly. Right. We're all different. We're all different. And that makes us unique.

[00:06:59] I can only be me. Everyone else is already taken. I need to let go of wanting to be someone else and just embrace who I am. And by embracing myself, I embrace the universe, the God and countless possibilities that he has in store for you. And eventually, if you won't accept that, God will start to give you gentle nudge to go in that direction.

[00:07:29] If you won't listen, he will stop being so gentle and use more force than before and eventually start kicking you in the butt to get you to a place that you should be. And yeah, he kicked me a lot to be here. So that was something I wanted to talk to you about today was mind mastery. Of course, I believe from what I've read that you feel we're kind of programmed by society.

[00:07:58] I feel the same way. So when we have negative experiences through childhood, through life, through society, through media, how do you get rid of all those negative thoughts? I feel like we're almost socialized or programmed to have negative thoughts about ourselves, to compare ourselves to others. And we're always going to fall short. And but my question is, how do we once and for all stop that?

[00:08:24] It depends how deep you want to go, because to reprogram the mind, it's very easy thing. You just need to get to alpha or even deeper states of mind. But if you really want to understand the topic, you need to realize what the mind is. And I'm not talking about that. This is like a computer that is used to process data, runs on electricity and it makes decision for you.

[00:08:53] I'm getting to the root of it and stating that this is a tool, just like the body is a tool. And those tools are for you to experience reality. So if you are using your mind to experience reality, that's perfect. That's what is supposed to happen. But if you allow the mind to use you, then there's something wrong and it's not working as it's designed to.

[00:09:22] So if you're thinking, for example, what's going to happen after you finish this podcast or what you're going to eat for supper, it's the mind using you because this doesn't have any value in this very moment. So it is about taming the mind that it doesn't jump from tree to tree like this drunken monkey.

[00:09:48] And by taming the mind, you actually realize that there is no need to fight. How do we tame the mind? Is that through meditation or some other modality? Because I'm hearing a lot about somatic breath work, all kinds of things. So what is the best way to tame the mind then, in your opinion? All journeys start with the first step.

[00:10:12] And there is no better or worse method because this itself is a trap of the duality. If it works for you, that's perfectly fine. If it doesn't, find something else. But I would encourage people to be aware of possible repercussions when you start to meditate. Because meditation, again, is a tool. So if we are using the tool, it's perfectly fine.

[00:10:40] But if we are so obsessed that we need to meditate, then the meditation is using us. For example, meditation will amplify the state that you're currently in. So if you want to meditate when you're stressed or anxious, you're going to be even more stressed and anxious. So it's not wise time to meditate.

[00:11:03] And if you see the sages of the past, it took them a while to get to the top using meditation. And we are so obsessed of having everything right here, right now. And that is why those advanced meditation were always hidden in sacred texts. For those to be worthy, to find them in the right time.

[00:11:31] But in our society, it's like given. And there is no... We don't see... We see the tip of the iceberg, but not what's underneath. And the thing is, people have energy channels in the body. And those relates to the level of soul inclination or energy centers. And advanced meditation that rely on energy from the cosmos.

[00:12:00] Assume you have all the channels open. Which 99.99% of all the time is not correct. People, most of the people have three of the seven channels open at maximum. And that's 80% of all them. So when you start to channel that energy, which you are not ready. It is like your body is used to electricity at 100 volt.

[00:12:30] But out of a sudden, you're doing 200 volt. It's going to fry your internal organs. You're going to decrease your lifespan. And that heat is going to get to your brain. Causing you hallucinations that you're spiritually advanced. And that is very hard to overcome. Because this friction between them and the universe creates this white fume that surrounds them.

[00:12:57] And truly, they believe everything is possible. But using duality, which this word is based on. Nothing is possible. And this is a huge energy loss. It's like they made the body so uncomfortable for the soul that the soul no longer resides in it. They like only shouts without any essence in it.

[00:13:24] So I would highly discourage people to build their houses starting from the roof and build foundations in the fast place. You know, it's interesting because I heard you say that meditation will amplify whatever state we're in. And I think you're the first person I've ever heard say that. Because what we normally hear is that meditation will change our state, right? If you're anxious, you can meditate to become calm.

[00:13:53] You could do the breath work to become calm. My mind is thinking about it now because I'm like, wow, no one's ever said that before. Usually, this is the difference between the West spirituality and the East spirituality. Okay. To compare it, our science is 180 years old. Ayurveda is approximately 5,000 years old. Traditional Chinese medicine is 3,000 years old.

[00:14:23] The teachings of esoteric tower, which they pretty much found the quantum field whilst living in the caves is around 8,000 years old. So there is so much deep in it that we do not see or perceive.

[00:14:42] And when you see those old arts, you can see that they actually start their journey of the spirit using the means of the body. Be it Kung Fu or yoga, basically for the sole reason of opening energy pathways. And in truth, those arts are very similar because Shaolin has roots in yoga.

[00:15:08] Because one of the first masters of Shaolin was a man from India called Bodhidharma, who was a very enlightened sage. And he started teaching the monks in the monastery that were struggling with health issues, how to preserve their energies. So it all started with opening the pathways in the body.

[00:15:32] Then they added arts like Qi Gong and eventually Tai Chi Kwan, which is the primary method of evolving the spirit. But there are also teachings that you shouldn't start Tai Chi Kwan from day one because you will not understand it. And there are several esoteric meditation that you should do, which is also to open the flow of the body.

[00:15:58] But this is a bit more advanced and we can skip that. Okay. Yeah, it's interesting to me because I'm sitting here thinking in a typical American society, we're all so busy, right? We work, if you have kids, you're taking your kids to all these different sports activities or academic activities. And then you try to have family time, friends time. I mean, it's just so busy.

[00:16:26] So to even think of trying to master all these different arts just seems almost impossible. Even, I mean, even if you want to, I don't know how you could. The way we live. Honestly, if you would like to master all of them, one lifetime wouldn't be enough. I mean, even one of each category. I mean, it just seems impossible.

[00:16:51] So instead of focusing what's not possible, we can focus on what's possible and use those arts for our benefit and start doing slowly. Maybe even five minutes a day and then increase it to 10 minutes.

[00:17:07] And eventually there is this saying that I will use as an example that if you invest 30 minutes to preserve and to preserve your energy and to make sure it flows the right way in the body, you will gain four hours in your day and obviously extend your lifespan as well. Wow. Not only extend the lifespan, but add use to the use that you have.

[00:17:37] That's pretty amazing. So how do you, I mean, what modality would teach you how to open those pathways in a proper way? Or are there several? There are countless ways. Okay. It's like going for a journey. You can go to a destination like London by countless different means. Okay. And the same way is for freedom of spirit.

[00:18:05] You can grasp it with countless ways. So let's start from the beginning because, you know, it's always best to start. There are ways to open the energy pathways like yoga, for example. But since it has been imported to the Western, it lost its roots. It became like a fitness class. Right.

[00:18:31] Where people use it as a drug, especially the spiritual people. They get into this pitfall. And once it lost its roots, it might make your mind weak because there wasn't any way for that pent up energy to get out of the body. And that is because we don't know how to root ourselves.

[00:18:59] And rooting is very simple concept of grasping the soul of the earth with your feet gently as if a monkey would grasping a tree branch. And what would be the result of that is first of all, any pent up excessive energy would be given back to mother earth.

[00:19:25] Not only that, since there are so many nerve endings in the food. By massaging those nerve endings, you massage your internal organs, promoting your well-being, which will release that energy.

[00:19:45] And since earth is closely related to the yin energy, which is the feminine energy, it will also replenish the fluids of your body. And it is like foundation before you go somewhere further. And just by grasping the earth, the ground with your feet, you can significantly increase your well-being.

[00:20:15] Because if you just start doing it, in the first step, you would need to be conscious about it. So that conscious act would also promote being spiritually awake. So you would stop thinking about what you need to do and maybe even some old traumas or some things that you need to take from the do-do list.

[00:20:41] So that will ensure you are not stressed and that you can cultivate positive emotions on top of promoting the well-being. And once you build the foundations, you can build brick by brick a beautiful castle for your soul to live. Yeah, that's fascinating.

[00:21:33] It's really good. It's really working. And it elevates tons of different diseases. Yeah, I've heard that too, that like cancer can't grow in an alkaline body. And so there's tremendous health benefits as well as I'm assuming mental benefits. Yes. Yeah, that's pretty amazing. So I know you talk about how the brain, the different brain waves affect our experiences.

[00:22:02] Would you want to explain that? Like, I'm assuming you mean the alpha, beta, theta. Hmm. So how the mind is built is that it operates on different frequencies, kind of like computer. And those frequencies are for our benefit.

[00:22:27] Because for some activities, you need to have more logical mind. And your subconsciousness, which doesn't understand logic, needs to be protected. Because without that protection, you can have many things like garbage program that doesn't make sense.

[00:22:50] So due to this, most of our time we spend in beta brain waves, which is around 20 hertz of frequency, which is this electricity running through our brain and is creating this field around us. So during the morning and the evening, naturally, that electricity is slower.

[00:23:19] Because when we sleep, it's actually very, very slow. So if you're willing to reprogram your mind, those times would be the best. Because naturally, you're in alpha state right now. So at that time, it is approximately 11 hertz of the frequency. So you can see that you operate more on what is called your intuition.

[00:23:50] And alpha state is this gap between subconscious and the conscious. So if you would be using even something very easy like affirmation, that would be countless times more beneficial to do it in the morning and in the evening. But obviously, there are ways to reach those states without having to rely on the day,

[00:24:20] on the time of the day. And that is such as meditation, which the more you don't think, the slower your brains become and the slower your brain becomes. The slower the frequency of it as well. There is also techniques from the West, like Silva mindfulness techniques, which I highly encourage anyone to explore,

[00:24:46] which is a way that this teacher, the Silva, found to teach his kids more effectively. But what he found out during the process is that he's teaching them psychic abilities. And they can see his thoughts and see the future as well. So he started to explore it from that point of view.

[00:25:15] And well, by default, anyone can sense the emotions or thoughts of other people. But since we are so bombarded with information from each direction, we cannot and we are not able to consciously process all of that information. And the result of that is that sometimes, even during the night,

[00:25:45] we need to process those information. And that process of information is usually the dreams we have. And our subconsciousness is telling us things. So if you want to reprogram the mind, one of the best way would be to limit the amount of content you're consuming. So there is no need for your mind to have so many thoughts.

[00:26:13] And then you can see which thoughts are recurring. Because even if we have approximately 60 to 70,000 thoughts per day, most of those thoughts are recurring approximately 90%. And those recurring thoughts lead us to the same words we say, to the same experiences we have, to the same character we have,

[00:26:41] and eventually to the same reality that we live in. Because what surrounds us at one stage of our life has been created consciously or unconsciously by our thoughts and emotions. Given time, it's no longer that we create something, but it is our environment that is pushing us into direction. That is also why it's so important to change the environment

[00:27:10] if you want to achieve things. So it all starts with the mind and the beliefs we have. And truly, belief is a glorified way of restriction. And people love their restrictions because they believe that their beliefs are them. They believe that their emotions are them.

[00:27:37] And if you have been doing something in the same fashion for so long, you get addicted to that because experiences are followed by emotions. And emotions are followed by chemicals that are released in your veins, like cortisol or serotonin. So we got addicted to those chemicals while we experienced those events.

[00:28:04] And then again, it's no longer our mind that is leading us to our own known destiny. It's our bodies. So by realizing who you are in the first place, you can see what you need to let go to become a free man. And this journey called life is actually about discarding things

[00:28:31] like this story of the old days that there was this practitioner that found a master and he asked him to teach him. So the master started pouring him tea to the cup. But eventually the cup has been filled and the master haven't stopped pouring it.

[00:28:57] So the practitioner, the student asked, Master, what are you doing? The cup is already full. And the master replied, Yes, you can see that if the cup is filled, you cannot be poured anything new. So using the mind correctly, it's ensuring that the mind is empty so it can be filled. But we got so caught up in this trap

[00:29:25] that we allow the mind to use us. Yeah, it's amazing because I never heard someone say that we get addicted to the chemicals of our emotions. And I'm sitting here thinking that is amazing because we repeat all of these thoughts on loop to ourselves. And now I'm wondering, is that why? Are we training our brain to repeat them because of the chemicals that it's releasing, good or bad? It's making me think a lot.

[00:29:55] That's amazing. I've never thought of it in that perspective. So what are your thoughts as far as reprogramming the mind? What are your thoughts on hypnosis? So just as we stated, you, Michelle, are not only your thoughts, you're also your emotions. And if you start to reprogram only the thoughts, you would leave the energy charge of the emotion.

[00:30:24] And that would create conflict. For example, if you program yourself that you're full of courage, you're brave as a lion, but deep within, you're still addicted to the emotion of fear, what will happen is those energy charges will conflict and crash. To show you, like from metaphor point of view, what would happen

[00:30:53] if you would put boiling water in a cup and put it into a fridge, something will break and the cup will break and the cup is your body. So I'm not saying it's good or wrong. I'm saying there will be repercussions because that force will damage your body and decrease your lifespan. Oh, wow. I've actually studied hypnosis a little bit and what we studied,

[00:31:23] you did address the emotions as well or at least that was my understanding is that we were addressing not only the thoughts but the emotions as well. So that has not been your experience with hypnosis? Not really, no. I studied it through one of the methods that I don't even recall right now, clinical hypnosis and NLP and this is something that I observed

[00:31:52] going beyond the senses. Mostly if it works for you, you can stay with it but be aware that there are always repercussions of what you do. If you would like to go to London by plane it would be a completely different experience if you would go there by, for example, car. And hypnosis has this thing that it doesn't if you have a toothache for example

[00:32:22] and you program yourself using hypnosis that it doesn't have that pain will usually manifest somewhere else because the pain is like this messenger in front of your door looking for your attention to fix issues and if you would just close your eyes and act like a kid nothing good will come from it. The life is about confronting what is hard so your life can eventually become

[00:32:52] very easy. Yeah, that's interesting. I'll have to think on that one to be honest. I've never really thought of it that way. My perception was that we were addressing the emotions but I am also fascinated to how you keep mentioning we have to be aware of the repercussions no matter what modality and I think that's again something I've never really heard anyone say I appreciate that you do

[00:33:23] get somewhere and we don't think that just like taking medicine there's always a repercussion of some sort there's always a side effect or something that's going to crop up and then you have to address that usually it happens when somebody has exploring modalities found that nothing works and he jumps into advanced modalities that give him the result he's looking for but there are

[00:33:53] serious consequences because to get to the level of using those high level modalities you need to practice for many years for that to be safe for you and we have this tendency that we believe that we have illness that we have been growing for let's say 20 30 years and we believe that we're going to fix it in one month using this modality

[00:34:22] that is basically not how it works if you have this illness for 30 years that is a result of your lifestyle it will take many days months and weeks even years to let go of it and if you have this tendency to use shortcuts well I always got lost using shortcuts and this is the essence of life which is based on duality that if you will

[00:34:52] use the short road you will have the long road but if you choose the long road it will eventually become the short road it is from day to night and from night to day because those are the very interesting switching to health the body and the impact of our emotions and environment I read where you focus on

[00:35:21] epigenetics so when you mentioned earlier that we have to change the environment as well right so by environment are you referring to the people we surround ourselves with are you referring to the physical environment of our houses or the environment of what we're saying to ourselves or everything environment can be literally everything and it what matters is what matters to you if you think you need to

[00:35:51] change how you react emotionally it is most likely true if you think you are being hindered by the people around you it is most likely true so it all starts from going deep within so you can have your answers because I'm not Michelle I'm Andy what works for Andy might not work for Michelle I can give you the

[00:36:34] increase increase your journey and slow down your progress because I am me and you are you and that is something that we need to accept right and a lot of it's probably from our past as well like our childhood and because we've come from different places had different experiences which like you're saying everything affects us so you mentioned epigenetics and it's basically

[00:37:04] expressions of the genes and that means what have been given to us by our ancestors is always within us from different perspectives you can call it original sin karma or from the religion of the 21st century you can call it science epigenetics and that our ancestors believe what worked for them what didn't work for them

[00:37:35] and what they haven't been able to work through will land on our shoulders as a burden something that is called ancestors trauma or from spiritual point of view you can call it demons which is when the gene is being expressed in a faulty way and those are very significant patterns of our life that

[00:38:04] relate to emotion that is being expressed such as fear or anger or issues with self worth that we feel that we are in so much luck that we are so much worse than all came from the same God actually it is our ego telling us otherwise so if we

[00:38:34] are part of this universal great power how can we be different that's not possible how can be a left arm better or worse than different parents we have different genes we have different upbringings different experiences that makes us different and

[00:39:04] unique but eventually we come from one source and this life is about discarding the things that we have found during this journey while we experience ourselves so we that because of our emotions or our environment or both that we're turning on and

[00:39:34] off genes right and that's what's causing the physical differences between us like I may have autoimmune disease and you're perfectly healthy or whatever and the thought behind it is that correct or well in short how you react internally will

[00:40:04] affect the external okay so how you act how you feel emotion to the events around you will trigger regulate or down regulate the genes within you okay so but I mean do you believe that if we've turned a certain gene on that's maybe created a problem for us that we have the ability to shut it off correct yes we have the power to God

[00:40:34] created humans on their image and God is almighty and it doesn't really matter how you perceive God is it nature universe tower or brachma or jehovah it is the same universal power that is limitless with power to create and so are humans humans can create somehow you subconsciously created a disease you can consciously create a way to be healed

[00:41:03] that's amazing so what do you think about the I just wanted to ask I know you talk about holotropic breathing is that the same somatic breathing or is there a difference I've not really heard of it before holotropic breathing I believe it started with scientists that was exploring ways that psychedelics work on the mind and how it can be used

[00:41:33] to let go of any trauma and eventually he found a way to do it without the drug where this energy is released from the body and it is a negative charge the body creates so much energy from within that you actually reach the gamma state it can be also achieved by many other different means from the west like trauma release exercise and your body starts to shake and it

[00:42:03] convolves because it needs that energy released so it works and if it works it's perfectly fine I'm not really familiar with somatic breathing so I cannot say about it okay I think it's more along the lines of like trying to calm the nervous system is my understanding I don't know a ton about it but I know it's using breathing exercises to calm the

[00:42:33] nervous system and to relieve anxiety and anxiousness so yes that is more than possible even in esoteric there are countless breathing methods that could achieve that like packing breathing from iron short qigong which is a way to energize the body and to release the stress and anxiety so definitely using graph work you can

[00:43:03] release anxiety okay now I know like we're saying you have a vast history and various modalities and I saw where you have like 7000 hours logged in meditation and just phenomenal things so I was just curious and there may not be an answer to this but if someone came to you as a coach and they were in need of like physical healing is there a modality that you feel is better

[00:43:32] or like again is it just whatever works for you works I mean how would someone even know where to start and or what if it was emotional healing what is the same thing in all modalities that amplifies them it's faith it's faith in yourself faith in the process or the universe and if the faith is strong enough there is no need

[00:44:02] for modalities and if it will be needed the modality will find you because you have so strong faith to a point that you no longer believe you are having a sickness you're whole again so you stop focusing on the symptoms and eventually they are dissolved and you are a new man that's beautiful I like that so focus just focus

[00:44:32] on your faith that's what I got from that yes more than anything and the process as well stop focusing on what is wrong with you because where you put your attention you make it stronger and by fighting the symptoms you also make them stronger put attention on the faith and that will get you healthy again I love that thank you I did want to ask you I had seen where you did

[00:45:02] an 11 day fast fast and I wondered if you did it for health purposes or spiritual purposes what was behind that 11 day fast I think it is the same for health and spiritual reason and it was during my journey where I thought there was something wrong with me my teacher called it a quest for enlightenment

[00:45:31] and since again there was nothing wrong with me the benefits of that wasn't really great quite on the contrary because a flower blooms all flowers bloom in due time and the flower doesn't think when to bloom it just blooms so when you want to bloom you slow down the process because it's like dancing you cannot think about dancing while you dance

[00:46:01] you can either dance or you think about dancing so you can either live or think about living and thinking about living will not get you places and that is basically the same with fasting which also should be taken with many steps of precautions because you cannot just decide that I'm going to fast this day and start doing it because this will be a great shock for

[00:46:31] your body and your body might shrink as in a way of saying thank you that it doesn't trust you and then obviously after the fast you cannot really go eat a pizza or Snickers you using shortcuts and there are no shortcuts actually the long road is the shortcut

[00:47:01] because if you actually study and do it daily there would be more benefits that if you do something once and you forget about it especially how the body works that you do something today and the results might like you eat hamburger today or pizza and the aftermath results of it might be even 90 days later because that how body works so we think that something works

[00:47:31] but then we are hit with the results of it aftermath and we don't know what happened so this is a lot about preaching the golden middle like you would be traveling on a boat through river if you would be hitting the shallow rock from side to side which represents the duality of life you will not enjoy the ride you are like oh my god I hate this boat I want this journey to finish but

[00:48:01] if you would be sailing in the middle you have time to enjoy the ride and enjoy the beauty of the universe and the life that has been given to you it is very similar with the aspect of health growth if you go to extremes will find you and if you observe the nature the extreme

[00:48:31] environment decrease the potential of those living in that environment yeah and to your point 11 day fasting can be very dangerous so I would advise anybody a probably don't do it at all but if you're thinking about it talk to your doctor yeah I was just curious because I had never seen anyone that had done one for that length

[00:49:05] of yes I felt that there was so many things wrong with me because the reality I experienced was something completely different and it was overwhelming and I'm not talking about the fact that highly sensitive people have this ability or curse or a blessing to sponge other people emotion and then they are

[00:49:35] overwhelmed and often burned with those energies and it starts this vicious cycle because in our head we wanted to say something different we wanted to act differently but since we were so ungrounded we just froze our belly sank and we stopped breathing and we kind of looked stupid so we sponge the negative emotion of

[00:50:05] the third party just to end that interaction at all the cost so after it ends we wanted to do something better right we wanted to act differently so we go through this mind movies in our head and we plan for the next time and guess what next time happens and it's all the same and it starts to impact your self worth which

[00:50:35] starts to decrease decrease you start to lose respect to yourself just highway to hell because eventually people will struggle with doing basic things like groceries and they would get so anxious just of the thought of interacting with others not to mention any relationships or boundaries it

[00:51:15] unique because not many people from my environment could do that so I came to this conclusion that I'm crazy and in a way I know I couldn't really speak with people about it because what they will throw rocks at me so in a way I suppressed that side of me to the point that it couldn't be suppressed no more and that's where the kind of desperation came

[00:51:44] from correct I understand that yeah that would be very tough especially to be a very young person and trying to process all of this stuff knowing that you're very different from everyone else it would be very hard I know that you also talk about silent mind programming and I was wondering if you feel like by that do you mean like the media is programming us and society as a whole yes

[00:52:14] yes that's what I feel that way yes and I was wondering if that's the case other than limiting ourselves from watching the media we have to engage in society but limiting our engagement how do we guard ourselves from that how do we recognize it and how do we protect ourselves you can protect yourself just by being aware of this process that social media is a way to program you

[00:52:44] and in most cases it is to program you for something that you would not consciously choose for yourself because in the end all beliefs are restrictions and we tend to clarify them and if you have been programmed since early days you it would become so natural for you that you wouldn't even think otherwise to be true so it closes the mind

[00:53:14] so by simply being aware of that it should be fine also limiting the amount of content is very crucial and that is enough okay I was just curious on your thoughts because I feel that a lot and I feel like I can almost see who's aware of it and who's not you can tell a difference between people based on that so what do you mean when you say that our emotions are the key to

[00:53:44] unlocking the information stored deep within us it's something that I've found well to put it simply emotions are the triggers to from our ancestors and they always with us by emotions it can be accessed and I'm not saying

[00:54:13] like information from grandparents or grand grandparents I'm talking about all of your previous ancestors and if you see if you think that humans written history is approximately 6,000 years old just from that point of view you could have access to at least 80 other people and in truth there would be so much more

[00:54:43] so you could use those experiences to your benefit you could learn from that and there is also countless different techniques and skills that you always have access to you just need to be still enough to be able to see that but if you are trying to find that or trying to understand that it will not happen to you because you want something

[00:55:13] to happen and that one thing creates separation between you and that thing you actually want you need to let go and be still in the mind and you cannot push the process because by pushing the process you slow down the process you could use it to your own benefit and try to slow

[00:55:51] being who you are supposed to be and stop being who you are and all this internal conflict just stops you stop being anxious you stop being depressed that those negative emotions cannot exist because once you embrace who you are the only emotion there is gratitude for existence I hear a lot about finding our authentic self so to speak but how do we

[00:56:21] even know what that is if a lot of what we perceive ourselves to be as ego as you were talking before how do we know what the true essence of ourself is or do we just

[00:56:51] okay so to your point how do know how do do we know where ego what I truly am ego only persists in the moment when it tells you that you need to achieve things you need to do things and the truth is the soul doesn't need those things it can exist in the moment so if you have this arch that you need to constantly run in one direction kind of like a dog chasing its own

[00:57:21] tail it's probably the ego and by realizing that just realizing realizing is enough it's the first step you realize that and it starts to dissolve because you put your attention to it and if you put your attention to it nothing lasts forever and you start doing it with belief under the belief one belief after belief and eventually there are no beliefs to

[00:57:51] dissolve and you are completely a free soul surrounded by abundance so if wanting something creates separation from it we're not supposed to have whatever I'm a little confused on that if you could help me so let's say somebody has a red Lamborghini do you think

[00:58:21] he would want a red Lamborghini no he already has one right so if you want to see from spiritual perspective time does not exist so if you have this car I have this job and you are very grateful for it as the experience would already happen and then

[00:58:51] you attract that energy in your life and you sooner or later you change your energy which amplifies the process because your energy attracts other similar energies and eventually if you invest energy you will have that car you could say that working in that direction is also beneficial because you can think about working or you can work

[00:59:21] and if you think about working usually you don't get stuff done very true I if you're using the mind to your advantage to your benefit that's perfectly fine but if you're thinking what's going

[00:59:51] to happen in a year how is that going to benefit you instead you could just focus what can you do right now to get that goal let's say you start doing that and once you start doing that think again if there is something I can improve but not think what's going to happen in a year that's

[01:00:21] your mind using you okay I see what you're saying so be more in the present moment in a way yes okay so I was just wondering my printer quit working on me so I don't have what you sent me right in front of me but I know that you are working in an apprenticeship towards a monastery is that correct correct and I just wondered are you still searching for something or why are you apprenticing this I was just

[01:00:50] curious I'm not searching for anything okay because if I would like to search I would have more search I already found what I want okay and it relates heavily to studying Kung Fu Qi Gong Tai Chi Kwan and I study those arts daily and Shaolin offers an extensive way to learn that okay and it suits me a lot because I

[01:01:20] already kind of left like I'm wrong because I focus only on work meditation training and growing and those things benefit me and the things that haven't benefiting me I put them all into the fire under my belly to give me energy to get what I want that's pretty what do you feel is there any one thing

[01:01:50] or couple of things that you feel changed you the most on your journey changed your life the most I was blessed enough to have enlightened teacher from traditional Chinese medicine and he was always my role model because once he went through his door he knew everything about you and using the readings from the polls he could say things like you

[01:02:19] had a coffee two hours ago and you ate fish for lunch so he truly understood his craft and it always then stood in comparison to the western spirituality that I saw on social media and I believed it to be kind of like a fad and that experience was something that opened my eyes and

[01:02:49] he's one of the me in a way which was a refreshing experience so I'm very grateful for that then realizing that my ego pushes me to do things and it actually slowed down the process was also life opening so I let go I started being who I am instead of who should

[01:03:24] struggle with letting go of whatever that identity that we've created is whether it's your work or how you grew up or whatever I think a lot of us struggle with what even letting go means I mean it's just a lot of us are on the beginning of the journey it's different but you know all journeys start with the first step if you just keep on marching eventually you will see the destination very

[01:03:54] I know you also said nothing is out of reach everything is possible do you really believe that's true whether it's healing or achieving something you'd feel like everything is possible or is it just in the journey as we develop spiritually that we realize we didn't need whatever it was anyway you can be anyone in this life but would being anyone really benefit you

[01:04:24] learning how to play guitar would be beneficial to engineer so you truly can be anyone in this life but would that serve you or would it serve your ego I struggle with things because like the learning guitar for the engineer it might help him relax and calm him and or her and make life it or not if

[01:04:54] you put it that way obviously yes I agree although you can give an argument that shouldn't the engineer find ways for the work not to be so taxing for him it is about the context yeah to make maybe a simpler comparison would be beneficial for the engineer to be a very successful lawyer

[01:05:24] and if he's gonna invest that much time into being successful lawyer he's gonna stop being successful engineer because it's something for something and that time used to be a successful lawyer he could invest in being even better in his craft right so you can be anyone you want in your life but that has consequences you're choosing something instead of something right so choose

[01:05:54] wisely I think that's the key because I'm thinking if the engineer had such a pull to become a lawyer maybe he's being guided in that direction for some reason that might be true I don't know yeah even if it's a huge undertaking yeah there's so many things to ponder I think you could get lost on some of this stuff I could I want to be mindful of the time and I was wondering if you could tell us a bit

[01:06:24] about your coaching business if you would yes I usually work with highly sensitive people just like me because I know and my program is very easy for those people first of

[01:06:53] all I teach them how to be immune to negative emotion energies frequencies suggestions or thoughts and once that is learned it usually takes approximately 40 days the deep internal work starts of going to the cause of why were they're ungrounded in the first place was it anger was it fear usually it's one of those emotions and it's actually

[01:07:22] they had anger towards themselves because in the first place they lacked courage to stay to stay their needs and since we are living in this day and age I also have a program for health for anyone that is struggling with any illnesses or disease if you would like to open the energy pathways of the body so the energy can flow and you

[01:07:52] can change the negative emotions from the organs to the ones that are beneficial because all of our internal organs are correlated heavily to emotions for example let's say we have kidness kidness negative emotion or trauma and fears when it's transmuted it's gentleness awareness and stillness so it's a

[01:08:22] very powerful practice that once you clean the emotion many of those limiting beliefs actually dissolve themselves on their own you start eating better you start sleeping better you start acting better without any thought in that direction and obviously there are some people that want to manifest things in their life I also have a program for that but that is a more advanced program

[01:08:52] and it actually depends on you finishing the health program fast I was always having my master in my mind whilst doing things and to really teach and guide and serve others not from the point of ego but giving them the tools that would help their soul to transcend the environment they live in their limitation their beliefs

[01:09:21] or emotion so they can be free and this is a part of my program and this is part of my quest why I'm doing and training and meditating so much because my mission is to guide and serve so I need to be at the top of my game at all times that is why I'm doing what I'm doing that's beautiful as you were talking for the coaching the impasse and you were talking about protecting negative

[01:09:51] energies and how to keep themselves safe from all that for lack of a better word I was thinking in today's age and time that applies to everybody right I mean whether you're an empath or not there's so much negativity there's so much confusion fear all kinds of things that I think everybody could benefit from that honestly so I'm glad you mentioned that now the other thing I wanted to ask is how people can find you

[01:10:21] how do they get to your programs do you have a website do you have a link that you can share me hopefully if you can see my picture there's a QR code that you could access my links if by some crazy unfortunate event it's not walking you can just find me on my page which is simply sagend.com also

[01:10:51] I use facebook as I believe it's your courage catalyst and empath catalyst where you can dm me directly and we can see the best ways for you to start this journey and truly start living okay that's awesome now one thing I would like to ask you is there anything we didn't touch on today that you want to make sure that the listeners hear take a deep breath relax

[01:11:20] relax take it easy everything between heaven and earth is perfect nature never rushes yet everything is done on time so you can take lessons from the nature and always choose your well well being in the first place because your well being will manifest on all the layers of your life your finance your

[01:11:49] relationship if your calm is steady everything around you is steady and use that and take it for the rest of your day that's beautiful thank you and all mind I hope you have a wonderful day have the best things in your life thank you ah thank you you

[01:12:19] too bye bye goodbye now as we wrap up today's episode I hope Andy sharing his knowledge experience and wisdom has helped you in some way I think it's extremely important to reiterate that Andy talks about the negative repercussions or consequences of any modality we may choose to explore I think we should all be doing some research and see if the modality aligns with what we hope to achieve with even our faith I think that one's huge our once etc

[01:12:49] we should be looking at is it even a good fit for someone that has logged over 7,000 hours in meditation I would say he has to be an expert in the field so I'm going to defer to Andy on that one I thought it was profound also how he mentioned that every choice we make is a choice not to choose something else and I think it would be

[01:13:19] easy to go into the weeds on that one but it's definitely something to be thinking about I also thought it was enlightening and almost scary how he mentioned that our emotions totally affect our gene expression I had never thought of it in that much detail or that seriously but that's a big wow in my book he also stressed how strengthening your faith is the best and maybe the most important thing you can do then become self aware let go and relax

[01:13:49] sounds like good advice to me I hope you enjoyed today's show I would love to hear from you as always I

[01:14:22] guest on the show you can reach me directly at the beauty in the mess dot com thanks for listening