In this episode of 'The Beauty In The Mess,' host Michele welcomes Kim, a health coach for middle-aged women, who shares her compelling backstory. Kim, a former journalist, opens up about her global travels, her battle with a severe autoimmune disease leading to multiple sclerosis (MS), and her transformative journey to reclaim her life through strength training. She discusses the physical and mental benefits of weightlifting, the challenges of living with MS, and how she became a European weightlifting champion. Kim also offers insightful advice on small daily habits, the importance of proper nutrition, and the empowering nature of physical strength for women, encouraging everyone to take the first step towards a healthier life today.
Kim is a 60-year-old mother of three who was diagnosed with MS 10 years ago and decided to ignore her doctor's advice and muscle her way back to a happy life. Last year she became European Champion in Masters Weightlifting in her age and weight category. Her journey inspired her to leave her career in journalism in her 50s and become a health coach for middle aged women - with a big focus on reactivating and rebuilding muscle. Today, she helps women tap into an abundant source of vitality. It works by reactivating and maintaining muscle and eating to nourish and flourish.
02:07 Kim's Journey to Becoming a Health Coach
03:10 The First Autoimmune Episode
04:38 The MS Diagnosis and Struggles
07:35 Embracing Physical Strength
11:11 Maintaining Motivation and Small Habits
20:25 Diet and Autoimmune Diseases
23:14 From MS Patient to Weightlifting Champion
25:57 Joining the Gym at 55
26:29 The Thrill of Competing
28:45 Gratitude and Living in the Moment
30:03 Discovering Meditation
32:14 Coaching Midlife Women
33:43 Strength Training Approach
35:32 Nutrition and Support
37:29 Encouragement to Start Today
43:18 The Challenge of Change
47:33 Final Thoughts and Contact Information
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[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Michele Simms and this is The Beauty in the Mess.
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[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_01]: During gaging, honest and insightful conversations, this show will help you embrace the
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[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_01]: to help you start making a mindset shift.
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[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, friends. Welcome to The Beauty in the Mess.
[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: For this episode, I'm happy to welcome Kim Rahir to the show.
[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Kim is a health coach for Middle Age women. She shares her compelling backstory.
[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: She is a former journalist. She opens up about her global travels, her battle with severe autoimmune disease,
[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_01]: leading to a multiple sclerosis diagnosis and her transformative journey to reclaiming her life through strength training.
[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: She discusses the physical and mental benefits of weight lifting, the challenges of living with
[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: the mess and how she became a European weightlifting champion.
[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Kim also offers insightful advice on small daily habits, the importance of proper nutrition
[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and the empowering nature of physical strength for women, encouraging everyone to take
[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_01]: the first step towards a healthier life today.
[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Kim is a 60-year-old mother of three who has diagnosed with MS 10 years ago and decided to ignore
[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: her doctor's advice and muscle her way back to a happy life.
[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Last year she became European champion and masters weightlifting in her age and weight category.
[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Her journey inspired her to leave her career in journalism in her 50s and become a health coach for Middle Age women
[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: with a big focus on reactivating and rebuilding muscle.
[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Today she helps women tap into their abundant source of vitality and it works by reactivating
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and maintaining muscle and eating to nourish and flourish.
[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So without further ado, let's dive right into today's conversation.
[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi Kim, welcome to the Beauty and the Mass. I'm so glad to have you here today.
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, I'm Michelle. Thanks for having me.
[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I know you're a health coach for Middle Age women but before we get into that in depth into that,
[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: could you give us some of your backstory like what led you down the path of becoming a health coach?
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, absolutely. I used to be a journalist actually and my husband and I we traveled around the world
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: like moving every four years, changing countries and we altered three kids and we dragged them across the globe with us.
[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Which was fun. I always used to work because of freelancer and my husband would head to the assignment
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: so I was following him and starting from scratch all the time.
[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And then one day we moved to Germany and I had a full-time job too.
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I had employment and I was so happy. I thought I had made it a great career and a family children, everything so nice
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and something that I always wanted to prove because I was brought up with this idea and conservative Germany
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_00]: you can have either a family or a child but both not going to work.
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Or you won't be happy or a good woman. So I thought I had it all and literally from one day to the next
[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I was struck down. I was started by me seeing double when to the doctors. They rushed me the hospital, lots and lots of tests
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I had to stay in hospital for six weeks over the first three weeks. I lost all sensitivity in my legs. They were totally paralyzed
[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't wiggle the toe and they weren't sure what it was. I mean they thought it was something autoimmune
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: but because I had various symptoms and they have like their definition boxes and my symptoms came from one box
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_00]: and then from the other box like the eyes that was weird, the legs were different.
[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So they took a long time and I was out of hospital by the time they sort of made up their mind where it was that I had
[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a first autoimmune episode that I lived through when it was supposed to be a one-off called a Guillain Barri
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So where your immune system reacts violently to a virus and overshoots and attacks that your body's own cells
[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I came home just before Christmas. I was in the wheelchair because my legs were getting better very slowly
[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_00]: but I still couldn't walk then I walked with crutches and I walked a little bit further every day and took me about six months
[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_00]: to be sort of walking normally again and I got some treatment too
[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and after a year I was told that I had a clean little health that this one-off thing was gone and that I was fine
[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and then we moved again new country and after a few months there I felt my left hand going numb
[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_00]: and I knew that was trouble because with all these neurological afflictions you always feel things that you shouldn't be feeling
[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's how you know and it's so weird and they're like really weird sensation
[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_00]: more tests and then I was told that if this kind of thing happened again, I was going to be declared an MS patient
[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: because this time it was not like this one-off that I had before but it was an attack on the white matter in my nerves
[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's MS if it happens more than what? That was a dark time for me. I mean already the six weeks in hospital were very hard and scary
[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: but then when you get out of that and you told you fine now it's all good and then boom you get struck down again
[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_00]: that was a hard time and I felt it was a door that opened in my soul
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and behind the door was only darkness and I needed to keep that door shut
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: and I was hoping for a year that I wouldn't have a second relapse so I wouldn't be officially declared an MS patient
[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_00]: but I did and it came back it was very mild but I noticed it and it was an exercise yoga thing on the floor
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and felt tingling in my back and then got treatment right away and then the doctor told me,
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah this is MS you have to get lifelong treatment which was he was going like yes lifelong treatment
[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: this is what I'm describing. Wait a minute can we talk about this?
[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_00]: because life long treatment is so scary did give away your power and there's nothing you can then know about your body
[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_00]: because if you're doing fine and you don't have any relapses you never know is it because of the treatment or is it because I'm getting better
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and I would have loved a chance to know that I was getting better or do something
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and I thought with the doctor for an hour he was not used to people asking so many questions but I just needed to know everything
[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_00]: then I had to give in and I started injecting myself three times a week
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and I had asked the doctor about exercising and he was very not committed to it
[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe but you want to be careful I didn't really know what he wanted to tell me
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: he didn't say no he didn't say yes and I find I found that a little bit disappointing but I think he
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe he was out of his depth or something he didn't want to tell me go ahead
[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and he didn't want to tell me no either I had an appointment with a nurse who showed me how to inject myself
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: but she said oh exercises great for MS it helps you get fatigue resistant
[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_00]: and MS comes with patients struggle a lot with fatigue and with you train your body gets fatigued
[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: and it learns to come back stronger and that's a good thing
[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's when I decided that I was going to become physically strong
[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I got myself a nice book one of the first books that said women should lift heavy
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: and I started training with that because I was okay actually my legs that have been paralyzed two years before
[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_00]: they worked fine I mean they were not particularly strong and they needed to get stronger
[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: but I could walk all right I have I still have to this day my left hand is numb
[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: can't if I go for my lipstick in my hand bag with my left hand I might come up with my car keys
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_00]: because I don't really have good sensitivity there because of lesions from the first relapse that I had
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_00]: but I decided I would want to be physically strong and I think that this is something to do also
[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: with my experience in the hospital when you're so powerless can't walk
[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: you have absolutely no say over anything in your day
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_00]: not when you have your first cup of coffee not when you go to the toilet not when you have a shower
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: not even when the light is turned on or off in your room where you sleep you can't do anything
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_00]: so I really wanted my strength my physical strength back to feel empowered
[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and I started training and I got stronger and stronger and everything got better my whole outlook on life
[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_00]: my mental health my energy levels everything got better every time that I went for a check up with the new
[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: neurologist they say wow you're doing really well and I also had reflexes that had gone during my illness
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: when doctors had told me all those are never gonna come back they all came back so I was getting better
[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and we moved again found a new neurologist and he prescribed the same treatment but when after three years
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I asked him if I could suspend for a few weeks in order to go on a camping trip he said
[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: if you're doing so well if you want to stop it all together I'm going to support you
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: we were just totally outside the box not by the book
[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think many doctors do that and I was so grateful and I said hell yes
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: that's it for that and that's six and a half years ago without treatment and without any relapse
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_00]: ever since when I'm on wood and I think I'm not pretending that you can cure MS with strength training
[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_00]: but I'm convinced that the fact that I got myself physically strong has contributed in a big way
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: to me getting my life back and I just thought I was onto something and it's so empowering
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: to train physically it has great effects on all kinds of health and I just wanted to spread that message
[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and I dropped journalism took all kinds of classes and certifications and decided that I was going to help
[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_00]: women become strong and also filled a new life of strength and health and happiness with that
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_01]: that's wonderful really is my question my one of my first questions is I know a lot of us get
[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_01]: bad diagnosis or ones that we wish we hadn't gotten right and their initial reaction can be
[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm changing everything I'm going to die I'm going to exercise I'm going to but then over time
[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's the shock wears off or what happens exactly but a lot of people start losing
[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_01]: the same right they start losing motivation even if things are getting better so how did you maintain your motivation
[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_00]: what has kept you going all these years the one thing that I really believe in is small habits
[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: that you accumulate over time and that becomes sort of second nature and you know when I describe
[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: my mental emotional state at the time this fear that I had the starkness that was sort of looming inside my soul
[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I took myself out of the big picture I didn't want to look to far ahead with MS you never know where you go you have no idea
[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: you could become blind or be in a wheelchair or maybe have nothing at all so I didn't want to go there in my mind
[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to just stick to today and do what I can do that day and then do it
[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_00]: and when you just focus on your next step and then you take that next step that gives you momentum
[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: that gives you positive reinforcement shows you that you can do it and what you're describing
[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's actually totally human they're incredible statistics mind-blown statistics of people who are very
[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_00]: lacks and not consistent with life saving treatment for themselves they're not taking their medication
[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_00]: things like that they just forget they will do it and they will never skip a day of medication for their pet
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: or whatever it is they will always look after other beings with more consistent in and after themselves
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think this big overhaul that you describe that you get a diagnosis you get a wake up call
[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and you want to change everything I think it's actually counterproductive
[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I just decided to do one step at a time take every day just that day not telling myself oh my god I'm going to have to train
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_00]: from the rest of my life I'm just going to train today and at some point it really becomes
[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: off-or-mating and second nature and you don't even think about it anymore you just do it
[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and when you see the results and how it makes you feel then your motivation becomes intrinsic
[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and you just enjoy doing it because it's just something that's helping you and it becomes
[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_00]: pleasurable actually
[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I know a common symptom as fatigue did you have to fight fatigue during this strength training
[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: or did the medicine help? I don't know enough about it to know
[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah no no the medicine actually was more of a problem because it gives you
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_00]: it depends everyone reacts differently it gave me flu like symptoms which is pretty well known
[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: which means every day I that I injected myself I had headache and heavy limbs
[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and fact this feeling that you get just before a flu when you just feel so tired and it
[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_00]: low and that was from the treatment and I just took a ibuprofen on those days
[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I because I didn't want to get into that mindset of a sick person I wanted to live my life
[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: and live that very day just like I said live in the present make today work
[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_00]: and if I have to take it over the counter drug for that that's what I'm going to do
[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: because I don't want to sit at home feeling sorry for myself because I have a headache
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_00]: or because it was not like oh I have a headache to damn when I take it easy
[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I knew I was going to have a headache every single day that I was going to inject myself
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_00]: so I didn't want to live with that
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and the training and that's something that I see with my clients every time
[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_00]: the training itself it energizes you it seems counter intuitive because you're exerting yourself
[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_00]: and you're working hard but it gives you energy back like two or threefold
[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think that's also what made me overcome any fatigue
[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: sometimes that would have come from my condition I felt and it's like a few weeks
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: into starting that training you feel like you can move mountains
[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: do you think this strength training is also what I hope your mindset changed
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I know they talk about how exercise causes you to release
[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and orphans are really some chemical that boost your mood as well
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_01]: do you think that was part of it or just the fact that you were gaining your strength back?
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: No I actually think today with hindsight that the mental health benefits
[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: were maybe the biggest factor in all this
[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_00]: it's not only in orphans and orphans, you know some kind of it's mostly a reaction
[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_00]: also to prolong cardio when you get into the zone
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and you get that in the orphan kick which feels great
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: strength training has been proven by now time and time again
[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_00]: to improve mental health to reduce symptoms of anxiety, depression, overload, self-esteem
[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and the mechanism is not really clear they don't know exactly what causes
[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_00]: this decrease in mental health symptoms
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: but I'll take it I don't need to know the mechanism
[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's something about I think that's been researched
[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: because it's a two way street between your mind and your body
[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: if you stand up straight for example if you stand taller
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: if you hold yourself with more confidence that will somehow go back into your brain
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_00]: also and tell your brain
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_00]: oh with strong so we're safe we're okay
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_00]: it goes both ways and I think that does play a role
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and then of course when you carry your groceries in all of a sudden
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: they weigh nothing or somebody hands you a box and you just take it easily
[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_00]: it makes you feel confident and you have this feeling that you can trust your body
[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: you can trust your body to perform and to do the things that you wanted to do
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and that feels really good
[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_01]: so does it take like heavy weight lifting or is it moderate
[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_01]: or what can allow you to have these changes what level of weight lifting
[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_00]: you just need to start to load your muscles
[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_00]: so if you're a total beginner for example or if you haven't trained in a while
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_00]: or maybe you're a bit older you can totally train with your body weight
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_00]: just your body weight you can create really challenging exercises and loads for your body
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: to become stronger
[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_00]: you want a protocol that favors strength
[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_00]: so you don't want cardio style movements where you do very light stuff for half an hour
[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_00]: so you need to be quite intentional and deliberate in your programming
[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_00]: but if you want to start your body weight is fine and you can get incredibly strong
[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I'd say for years just using your body weight
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_00]: you can progress that you do not have and I think it's important especially for women
[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: well listen you do not have to set foot in a gym if you hate that
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: that's not your place that way you're comfortable you can get strong and start training
[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: at home with the weight of your body and have really great effects
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: by the weight of your body do you mean like resistance training?
[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_00]: just imagine a push up okay you're pushing the weight of your body against gravity
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_00]: and there's loads of exercises that you can do like that you can do body weight squats
[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and if that's not hard enough you could go for one leg it squats or deeper squats
[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_00]: or things like that so you sort of move your body against gravity
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's very functional too so that will help you in your everyday life
[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_00]: but if you want to maybe roll on the floor with your grandkids
[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_00]: or just get down on the floor and get back up things like that
[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_00]: move furniture like pushing pulling net for movements
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_00]: that you can do with your body that's what you can practice at home
[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: okay great I was curious because you mentioned that you lived in Germany
[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I believe when this first happened is that correct
[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_01]: because when I was researching it a little bit online
[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Germany was like the number one country in the world as far as MS cases
[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and I just wondered if you have I'm sure you've studied it and looked into it
[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_01]: but have they kind of figured out in any way
[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's termed an autoimmune disease which I have a different autoimmune
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: but I was just wondering if they know what's causing this
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_01]: because the United States where I met was like second
[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_01]: they're all women that I know that have MS
[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah they haven't figured it out
[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_00]: it's more women than men definitely
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's more people who live in the north and people in the south
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: so vitamin D might have something to do with it
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: but they are not very clear on this
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_00]: but they know that people in the north get it much more than people in the south
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_00]: but why that is I don't know
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I know now that I had a great grandfather who had a mess
[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and I also have two second cousins who have that
[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: so you know heredities also a factor
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I haven't hung all that had it
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious as to how much do you think our diet plays into this
[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_01]: because I know like in the United States people seem to consume
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: a whole lot more sugar than they should
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_01]: and I've had a doctor on the show Dr. Ben
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_01]: who talked about curing autoimmune diseases
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and a lot of it was related to sugar consumption
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_01]: or things that your body can convert to sugar
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_01]: so I was just wondering what your findings have been
[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_01]: on your journey
[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_00]: yes I definitely changed the way that I ate
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and in two ways first of all
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: after my illness I wasn't inspired of wanting to build myself back up
[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: so I moved away from all kinds of diet culture
[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_00]: when you grow up in our culture as a young girl
[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know when it's the first time I hear that nowadays girls
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_00]: start dieting when they're eight
[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_00]: but you hear about diets and losing weight and things very early on
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: and that had always been at the back of my mind too
[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_00]: or should I go on a diet or look like this
[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: should I lose weight and that totally went away from me
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_00]: when I decided that I needed to become stronger
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and build myself back up so the whole approach changed
[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and because I wanted to build muscle
[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I definitely had to eat more protein
[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's like the big building block of everything
[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and then to make your body to function properly
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: you just want to give it the right few words
[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_00]: you want to give it like whole foods
[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_00]: food that is food
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_00]: vegetables and fruit and maybe whole grains
[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and things like that
[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I think a big problem is processed foods
[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_00]: because there's so much stuff in there
[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_00]: that the body doesn't need
[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think might even be toxic
[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think toxins
[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and when most do not even aware of
[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they play a big role in autoimmune disease
[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: stuff in our environment
[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_00]: most don't even know that it's there
[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: but I think it can actually disrupt our system
[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: or endocrine function
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_00]: and then cause these problems
[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you're right
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm sure it can be a combination of things as well
[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_01]: but I do think our diet is huge
[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and some of this stuff
[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_01]: because you're starting to see the prevalence of autoimmune
[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: whatever type just is increasing
[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and increasing kind of scary
[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_01]: cause I think I read that there's 2.8 million cases
[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_01]: of diagnosed MS worldwide now
[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and like I said Germany was the number one
[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_01]: the United States was number two
[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think Canada is number three
[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_01]: so pretty scary
[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'd like you to talk for a second
[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it's one thing
[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's a huge thing
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_01]: to have MS and become a weight lifter
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: but he went on to become a champion right
[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_01]: so could you tell us a little about that
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_01]: cause yes, that's absolutely amazing
[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_01]: to me
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's actually grateful for every step
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_00]: that I can take
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_00]: because I know what if he's not doing a walk
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: but this is something that creates so much joy
[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and excitement in my life
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_00]: so I started lifting weights more
[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: like what is called power lifting styles
[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: or I did like dead lifts
[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and bench presses and stuff like that
[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_00]: to become strong
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and when we moved to Spain
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I worked with a personal trainer
[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_00]: and he one day said
[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_00]: would you like to try Olympic weight lifting
[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_00]: just for fun
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and I said okay
[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: what's that?
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's two movements
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: it's just two movements
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_00]: a Olympic weight lifting
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_00]: it's you have to put the bar overhead
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_00]: one movement you have to do it in one go
[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: that's called the snatch
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and the other movement is called a clean and jerk
[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_00]: so you lift the bar, you rest on your shoulder
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and then you put it over your head
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_00]: and I remember
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I watched those competitions when I was a kid
[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_00]: with my dad on TV
[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: when there was like Olympic games
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and stuff
[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_00]: then we watch these not in everyday life
[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: but Olympic games
[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_00]: it was weight lifting
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and sometimes the German would win
[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and I remember those at the time
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I remember just like
[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_00]: over weight men
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: they looked very hairy
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and were half naked
[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: and weird outfits
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and they lifted heavy weights
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_00]: but I was cute
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and then they got caught more
[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: let's try
[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's just amazing
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: because you need to be very strong
[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_00]: but you also need technique
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: so it's not enough to have a lot of muscle
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: you have to get the movement right
[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_00]: because you're really fighting gravity
[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: so you have to make sure
[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: that the bar travels up in a very vertical line
[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: but for the bar to travel up in a vertical line
[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_00]: your body is a little bit in the way
[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_00]: it has to be close to the body
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: but it has to travel vertical and your body is not completely vertical
[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_00]: especially when you bend the knees to give it a good push
[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_00]: so there's so much stuff going on
[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_00]: it really keeps your brains on its toes
[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_00]: so I was hooked right away
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: and I did it for a while
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's a commercial gym which doesn't really work
[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: because when you do this, you lift the bar overhead
[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and then you want to drop the weights
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: you don't want to lower them all the way down again
[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_00]: because it's extremely exhausting
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_00]: and you're not allowed to drop weights at a commercial gym
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: so after a while I signed up for a pure weightlifting club
[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's a totally different world
[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_00]: there are no mirrors, there's no music
[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_00]: there's just a lot of iron
[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_00]: and a lot of dust
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: and a trainer who tells you what to do
[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and I had been there for two weeks when someone came to me and said
[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: hey Kim, great that you joined
[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_00]: do you want to compete?
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and I said what?
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: do you know how old I am? I was 55 at the time
[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_00]: oh wow, I didn't realize that
[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_00]: and they said
[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_00]: well look at Mary over there
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_00]: she's older than you and she's competing
[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_00]: and I said okay, why not?
[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and that was like I think it was six years ago now
[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's just the greatest thing
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: because it's scary, it's exciting, it's exhilarating
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: it's absolutely everything
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: it makes you feel so alive
[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: because there's this platform
[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_00]: you have six attempts, three for each movement
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and they call your name
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_00]: and you walk out there
[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and all eyes are on you
[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_00]: when you have to make the lift there
[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_00]: you can't say oh yes today I could lift so many kilos
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and maybe on a good day I could lift that
[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_00]: you have sixty seconds
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_00]: and you have to do it
[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_00]: so it's super exciting
[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_00]: lots of adrenaline
[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_00]: and lots of camaraderie
[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and wear a tea moth
[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_00]: you're on the platform alone when you lift
[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_00]: but outside you're never alone
[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's just really, really great fun
[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and when I started
[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I was wondering how many women my age
[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: who still do this
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: and then I checked into international competitions
[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and they have masters competitions for older people
[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_00]: you're a master
[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_00]: from 35 onwards
[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_00]: that's when you've considered older
[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_00]: wow
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's a lovely thing
[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: because older people they organize these competitions
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and they have fun
[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and they keep traveling and competing
[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's how I started going to European championships
[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and really exciting meeting people from all over the world
[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_00]: there are guys that do this, they're like 89
[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_00]: oh wow
[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_00]: they travel the world
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: they come for the way in
[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_00]: they have to make the way they have to show up
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_00]: and they still lift
[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_00]: they still travel for this
[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's where I want to be when I'm 89
[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_00]: very awesome
[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and
[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_00]: but I've been to various European championships
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and last year
[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: for the first time I won
[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and that was like really big, big moment for me
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_01]: congratulations
[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah that's huge
[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and I have to wonder
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_01]: with someone who didn't have your background
[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_01]: with the health issues
[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_01]: that's an amazing feat
[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_01]: but for you knowing that you couldn't use your legs
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: for a while
[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and then here you are lifting this weight
[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: up over your head
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: and your legs
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: or the foundation
[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_01]: what's going through your head
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_01]: at that time
[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I just can't imagine
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: it's
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: it's gratitude
[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_00]: it's really gratitude
[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's weird
[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_00]: because my history has given me the awareness
[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_00]: that everything that I'm living
[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: now
[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_00]: it can be over tomorrow
[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's not something that sort of scares me
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: or it's not some doom
[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_00]: that sort of waiting for me
[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_00]: it really makes
[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_00]: today like a fuller experience
[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_00]: makes you more grateful
[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not living
[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_00]: in my mind
[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_00]: in the future
[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: or thinking, oh my God
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: how am I going to be
[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I know that what I have today is what I have today
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_00]: it could all be gone tomorrow
[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and I mean that's the same for any
[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: you would be on the planet
[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: that's what I was just going to say
[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_01]: we just don't know
[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: most of the time we're not aware
[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: but this is what my illness has taught me
[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: to be aware of this
[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_00]: and yes my legs
[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so grateful for my legs
[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and there are not
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_00]: skinny or slim legs or anything
[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean they're just very, very powerful
[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_00]: and I love that
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and when I do a meditation
[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and you have to do a body scan
[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_00]: every time
[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_00]: then I reach my legs
[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I have a particular appreciation
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_00]: because I know that
[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_00]: my powers and my legs
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I can imagine that's amazing
[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_01]: so that's interesting
[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: so you use meditation
[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: to help with your recovery
[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: or with the weight lifting
[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: or just to relax
[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_00]: it's something that I discovered
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_00]: actually when I got 30 MS diagnosis
[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_00]: because I was so scared
[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I was so fearful
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and I know that I needed
[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: somehow to get grounded
[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and find some kind of solace
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_00]: or point of comfort
[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_00]: and write coincidence
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember
[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I think somebody recommended it
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I found a meditation app
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: that I've been using ever since
[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_00]: but just have to look after your mind
[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: just as you have to look after your body
[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's how I do it
[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_00]: so it's
[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_00]: it's for my whole inner balance
[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_00]: so yes, there are techniques
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_00]: that you can use
[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_00]: in a competition
[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_00]: to be grounded
[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: to deal with nerves
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and everything
[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_00]: but for me it's something
[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_00]: that I need to do
[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_00]: daily
[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: and I don't do it
[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: 365 days a year
[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: there are sometimes I'm a miss a day
[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_00]: but not often
[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: because I feel that I need this
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: for my inner balance
[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's a fine extreme
[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_00]: be helpful
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's not so much about relaxing
[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's more about
[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_00]: focusing
[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's also about creating
[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_00]: a bit of space
[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_00]: because we are so
[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean we're assaulted all day
[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_00]: and all day long
[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: while this stimuli
[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: from everywhere
[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and our brain is naturally curious
[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and always wants to scroll on
[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_00]: and look at this
[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: or maybe read that
[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: and even if it's just 10 minutes a day
[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: where you sit still
[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and you're created
[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: but it's really very beneficial
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure I'm guessing
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_01]: that it gives you the space
[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_01]: for that gratitude as well
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_01]: where you can be grateful
[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: for all of you
[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_01]: absolutely
[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_01]: are you in remission now?
[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Can I ask that?
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I haven't had
[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_00]: treatment or relax
[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_00]: for six and a half years
[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_00]: and I get scans
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_00]: brain scans every year
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_00]: so we check up on this
[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_00]: so far so good
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_01]: it's just amazing
[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_01]: as far as your coaching business
[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_01]: do you coach other women
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_01]: without a immune
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: or with MS specifically
[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: or just any middle aged woman
[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_01]: or can you tell us a little bit about
[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_00]: coaching? Yes, any middle
[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: life woman who wants to
[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_00]: embrace physical strength
[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_00]: and understands that this
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_00]: is sort of shortest
[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and simplest way
[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_00]: to better health
[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and the better quality of life
[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I have clients
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_00]: that have autoimmune disorders
[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_00]: because like you said
[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_00]: they're everywhere
[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_00]: also like Hashimoto's
[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and Hyper-Firerism
[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: all these things
[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_00]: all that I think are
[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_00]: because we're sensitive
[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_00]: to disruptions in our environment
[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_00]: and toxins and stuff
[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_00]: so yes, I work with women
[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_00]: who have autoimmune disorders
[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't had an MS-clined ever
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and it also really depends on
[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_00]: what your situation is
[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_00]: it's different for every single one
[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and I really want to help
[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_00]: benefit from that feeling
[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and from the really good
[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_00]: health outcomes that
[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_01]: this creates. So how does your
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_01]: coaching work
[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and the same thing you do long distance
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_01]: coaching as well?
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, okay. I work exclusively
[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_01]: online. Yes. Okay, how does that work
[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_01]: online as far as you're with
[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_01]: you trying to help them get a healthy
[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_01]: year and stronger? Yes, there's three
[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_00]: parts to my approach
[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and the first one is the strength training
[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and we do like a thorough assessment, the
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_00]: movement screen as we call it. So I look exactly
[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_00]: in how where you're at, how you move
[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_00]: what your strength level is, what your mobility is,
[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_00]: what your status core
[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_00]: and then I design a program that will be
[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: exactly
[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_00]: the right kind of challenging for you.
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: So depending on where you are
[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_00]: you could start with just
[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_00]: lying on the floor and doing pelvic tilt
[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: sort of reconnect your brain and your body
[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_00]: and start moving very, very gently just to get
[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_00]: the whole systems that are up and running again.
[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Or some women go directly to the gym and do
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: 45-minute workout, doing pushing and pulling
[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's really designed to
[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_00]: your situation.
[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you haven't done anything for a long time
[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: or you're a total beginner then
[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: we'll start with something like
[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: 15 minutes daily
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_00]: to make sure to get you in the groove
[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_00]: but we're going to do that at home.
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_00]: To have the minimum possible resistance
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: for you to just drop out of bed
[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_00]: do your exercises 15 minutes quickly
[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_00]: so to get you into the habit
[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_00]: not make it difficult if you're a beginner
[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: or you haven't done anything for a long time
[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_00]: and I'm sending you to the gym
[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_00]: and you have to pack a bag
[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and then you get it to your car, you have to go through
[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_00]: traffic, you have to find parking, you have to
[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_00]: walk into the gym, get into the gym, get into the gym,
[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_00]: change, there's so much to do that
[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_00]: it will be too much of a change and too
[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: easy to drop out because you don't
[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: find the time or it's a bad day
[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: or your car breaks down or whatever
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_00]: so when you're not used to training
[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: we start at home 15 minutes daily
[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_00]: very easy.
[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Second part is the nutrition
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_00]: where we get into that building,
[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_00]: nourishing spirit
[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_00]: so no dieting but actually
[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_00]: you're like sort of turning it around and asking
[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_00]: what does my body need to function
[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_00]: to perform, what do I need
[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_00]: to feel energized and
[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: happy with my meals
[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_00]: and we build a blueprint for you
[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_00]: also that works for you
[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_00]: and that you can choose
[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_00]: wherever you're going to eat
[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_00]: so you don't need meal plans
[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_00]: or prescriptions you need
[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_00]: like a blueprint so you can even eat
[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_00]: right for your needs
[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_00]: on vacation on the cruise
[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_00]: anywhere
[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_00]: and then the third part is the support
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think that's really important
[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_00]: where we are really in touch
[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's the great thing about online
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_00]: because I use a coaching app
[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_00]: and you can message me any time
[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_00]: the PT
[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_00]: yes they are with you and it can help you
[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_00]: with the execution of the movements
[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_00]: but you see them
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: one twice if you're like you three times a week
[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_00]: or three hours
[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_00]: in the rest of the time you're on your own
[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_00]: so there's actually and that's something
[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I love about online coaching
[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_00]: there's a close relationship
[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_00]: actually you can stay close contact
[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_01]: all the time and there it adds a level
[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_01]: of accountability too right
[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_01]: because you have to check in
[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and tell why you've been doing
[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_01]: or not doing her
[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_00]: yes
[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's also not only you have to check
[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and you also know that there's someone
[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_00]: who wants to know what's going on
[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_00]: with you, someone who cares
[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: which is also not always the case
[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: especially mid-life women tend to feel
[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: that nobody gives a down
[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_00]: and they're invisible
[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's really great too
[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_00]: make them feel it, yes someone cares
[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_00]: and I want to know what you're doing
[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I think you've tapped into something
[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_01]: there for sure
[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of women feel that way
[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_01]: so is there anything we haven't talked about today
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_01]: that you want to make sure that the listeners here
[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to encourage everyone
[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: that even if you think that
[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_00]: this is not for you, it might be too late
[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_00]: for you
[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_00]: or too difficult
[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_00]: or you find
[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_00]: just the idea of doing
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: straight training, intimidating
[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_00]: or maybe you think that you have
[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_00]: too long or ways to go
[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_00]: to get somewhere where you want to be
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to encourage you
[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_00]: to start doing something today
[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_00]: something small like I did when I was ill
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think about tomorrow
[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_00]: or in five years
[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_00]: because that's far too scary
[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_00]: think of something that you can do today
[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_00]: a small step into the right direction
[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and it could be just having
[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_00]: another glass of water
[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_00]: or going for a walk
[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: or I don't know doing a little air squat
[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_00]: whatever it is, you can do something
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: today it's never too late
[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_00]: and if you start something today
[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_00]: making the most of time and you're already
[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_00]: one step ahead
[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think that's all that counts
[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_00]: don't worry about tomorrow, forget the big picture
[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_00]: do something now
[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe after listening to this podcast
[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: do a small thing
[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and it will make you feel good
[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_01]: do you find that your
[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_01]: the women you coach are amazed
[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_01]: how much better they feel
[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_01]: and probably a short amount of time
[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_01]: just by moving and eating cleaner
[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_01]: perhaps
[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_01]: yes
[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_00]: it's actually mind blowing for most of them
[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: the funny thing is
[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: most of my clients come to me with
[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_00]: the first goals of dropping weight
[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean all of them, but most of them feel
[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_00]: that this is the one thing that would make
[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_00]: them feel so much better
[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and when they start training
[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_00]: it takes most of the time it takes only two weeks
[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_00]: for them to feel totally different
[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: in their body and they say
[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: it's energy that they're feeling is so amazing
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and then when they start feeling stronger
[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_00]: it's like in the piffinies
[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_00]: oh my god, I feel so much better
[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I can feel my muscles
[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_00]: and that gives me so much confidence
[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and it really works so much faster
[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_00]: than you would think
[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think it's because we're
[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_00]: starting by waking up that connection
[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_00]: that's always there
[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_00]: it's always been there, the connection between
[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_00]: your brain and your muscles
[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_00]: it's gone a little bit offline
[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_00]: or into a sleep or stand by
[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_00]: mode because when you have
[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_00]: used them for like intentionally for a long time
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_00]: but the connection is there
[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_00]: so we wake it up and then it's back
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_00]: and that really works pretty fast
[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: one thing I have to ask is not only
[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's possible to get stronger of course
[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_01]: but can we actually change
[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_01]: like the shape of our body
[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_01]: so to speak as far as a lot of older women
[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_01]: get the flabby arms
[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and can you actually affect change on that
[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_01]: or is it just that the muscle underneath
[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: gets stronger but you're still going to have
[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of the loose skin
[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: or you know what I'm saying
[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_01]: can you actually strengthen
[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_01]: totally yeah okay
[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_00]: it totally depends on your
[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_00]: the degree
[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: if you have to lose a lot of
[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah if you have to lose a lot of fat
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_00]: there will be some loose skin
[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_00]: you can sort of fill that up a little bit
[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_00]: with muscle, with muscle
[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_00]: mass but not completely
[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_00]: you will not sort of fill that out
[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and it will not be taught
[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_00]: okay again if you
[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_00]: just want to do some body of recomposition
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_00]: so you don't have tons of tons of weight to lose
[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe a little bit of fat but you want to
[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_00]: most of the reduced fat and build muscle
[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_00]: then yes I mean the way you look will
[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_00]: change quite dramatically
[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_00]: when you say body shape
[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_00]: your basic body shape like the width of your hips
[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_00]: or your shoulders, the length of your arms
[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_00]: all these things, the proportions
[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_00]: we cannot change those
[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_00]: but you can really make a big visual difference
[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: also by training
[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_00]: you will look more tone
[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_00]: you will look
[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_00]: slimmer, more slender
[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_00]: and sometimes I have clients
[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_00]: their weight changes only
[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_00]: minimally and you see the
[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_00]: form after photos
[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and their body has changed tremendously
[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_00]: the one thing that I don't want to do
[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_00]: is like promise that your skin is going
[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_00]: to be like it was when you were 20
[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_00]: that's not going to happen
[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_00]: oh yeah I know that
[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I just wondered if there was hope
[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_01]: to improve it
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah yes not the way your body looks
[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_00]: can change dramatically
[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: absolutely but it will not look like
[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_00]: a 20 year old body
[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: but it will look like
[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_00]: a really cool
[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_00]: better 60 year old body so that's fine
[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah that's great
[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_01]: so if people are listening and they're like
[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_01]: wow I want to reach out to Kim
[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to get out in touch with her
[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_01]: or follow her whatever
[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_01]: where's the best place to find you
[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_00]: the easiest ways to go to my website
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_00]: which is kimera here.com
[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and on there there's a very
[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_00]: health and strength assessment actually
[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_00]: you can sort of take a little test
[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_00]: where you can find out exactly where
[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_00]: you are at when I was mentioning before
[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_00]: but you need to know where you are
[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_00]: if you want to take your next steps
[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_00]: but to find out exactly what your status
[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_00]: course and this is like a holistic
[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_00]: questionnaire where we find out
[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_00]: where your whole health and strength
[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_00]: situations that so that's on kimera here.com
[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_00]: you can follow me on Facebook
[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_00]: also with my name, Kim Raher
[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_00]: where I share stuff, also about my weight
[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_00]: lifting, my adventures, my next
[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_00]: competitions, a lot of tips and tricks
[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_00]: and helpful things for you to
[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_00]: start something, do something for yourself
[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_00]: right now and then you can always
[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_00]: email me to letkim.com
[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and I'll promise I'll answer
[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_01]: that's awesome
[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_01]: so what do you think most people
[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean everybody knows that they should be doing
[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_01]: something and working on their health
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_01]: but why do you think people are resistant
[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_01]: is it that fear of failure
[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_01]: or what do you think holds them back
[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that change is hard
[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_00]: at any time changes hard
[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_00]: all brain wants to protect us from change
[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and no matter how uncomfortable we are
[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_00]: in our current situation
[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_00]: there's something deep inside our brain
[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_00]: that says okay it's uncomfortable
[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_00]: but it's the devil we know
[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_00]: it's kind of safe if we move away from here
[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_00]: we change that could be dangerous
[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_00]: that's the first sort of
[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_00]: really instinctive resistance that we have to change
[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_00]: and I also think that our world
[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_00]: is built in a way now
[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_00]: that nothing
[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_00]: when it comes to healthy living
[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_00]: nothing is given to us
[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_00]: our environment is set up in a way for us to sit on our
[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_00]: backside all day
[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_00]: have food delivered to our doorstep
[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_00]: drive everywhere
[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_00]: we don't
[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_00]: start
[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_00]: changing things intentionally
[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_00]: deliberately nothing is going to happen
[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think it's not only
[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_00]: wanting to change
[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I actually think that we have to fight
[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_00]: out
[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_00]: the world has come to a situation where we have to fight for our right to move
[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and to eat healthy
[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's hard
[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_00]: because it's not like we're going back to something that we've always done
[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and we just have to sort of rediscover this
[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_00]: we have lived in a certain way
[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's really important to judge that
[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_00]: because if you have a life, you look after a family, you raise a family, you have a job
[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_00]: and if you haven't eaten broccoli for the last 30 years
[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_00]: it's for a reason it's not because you're a bad person
[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_00]: but now if you want to change there's no sort of
[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_00]: natural transitioning into this
[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_00]: you have to make a big decision
[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_00]: so we have to take small steps
[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_00]: but you have to make a big decision
[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and you have to be very deliberate
[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and you have to be ready to fight for your right to be healthy
[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_00]: because it's not going to be given to you
[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think that that's the most important insight.
[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Once you realize that
[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_00]: then you can start taking steps
[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and it will become easier
[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_00]: because then you're prepared for
[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_00]: something of a fight
[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_00]: which is going to be
[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah, I'm glad you're very real about it
[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_01]: because a lot of people
[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_01]: act like it's easy
[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's not easy
[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_01]: but like you said, it's just got to be deliberate
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and you have to remind yourself that you're making the choice
[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're making the choice to become healthy
[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and one of the guys I follow and listen to a lot
[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Gary Brekka and I'm paraphrasing what he says
[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_01]: but he says
[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_01]: convenience is the quickest path to death
[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_01]: more or less
[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's exactly what you were saying
[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_01]: that everything's convenient
[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: but that's just another way to say you're not moving
[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_01]: you're not doing
[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_01]: because we can have groceries delivered
[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_01]: when we can do all these things
[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_01]: that we don't have to move or get out and walk
[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and we don't realize what we're doing
[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_01]: to our bodies with that.
[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, some people even call it an evolutionary trap
[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_00]: because our brain is built
[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_00]: in order for us to conserve energy
[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_00]: so to eat as much as possible
[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and to move as little as possible
[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and it has served us really well
[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_00]: for thousands and thousands of years
[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_00]: because that's how we survived
[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_00]: food was scarce
[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and energy was precious
[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_00]: so our brain learned to want to not move
[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_00]: and eat whatever there's food
[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_00]: and now this evolutionary trait that we have
[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_00]: is our undoing
[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_00]: because there's food all the time
[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_00]: so we still have this instinct of eating all the time
[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_00]: so we eat too much
[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and we don't have to move
[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_00]: because everything is so convenient
[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_00]: and this urge that we have to stay still
[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_00]: to save the energy that we have ingested
[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_00]: is there and it leads us down this path
[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_00]: so it's a dangerous situation.
[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is.
[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, as we kind of wrap up
[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to thank you for being on the show
[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I love your message
[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think something you give to people
[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_01]: that is very needed is hope
[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and whether you have an autoimmune disease or not
[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of times we lose hope
[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_01]: that we can make things better
[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_01]: that we can feel better, that we can have energy again
[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_01]: we just accept the situation more in
[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_01]: as this is the way it is
[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_01]: and you've proven
[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_01]: in multiple ways
[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_01]: that's not necessarily the case
[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_01]: so I thank you for that.
[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty awesome.
[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for having me.
[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, if I can give hope to
[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_00]: just one personal listen to this then
[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy but there always is hope.
[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Michelle.
[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you
[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'll put all your information
[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_01]: in the show notes for us the links to you
[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_01]: so everyone will have access
[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_01]: but thank you very much.
[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I've enjoyed it.
[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Me too.
[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Bye bye.
[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_01]: As we wrap up today's episode
[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I hope Kim sharing her knowledge experience
[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and wisdom has helped you in some way
[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was amazing how much hope
[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Kim brings to many of us who deal with
[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_01]: chronic health problems
[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_01]: or loved ones with chronic health issues
[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_01]: The main thing that I'm walking away with
[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_01]: is Kim's words that if we want to get healthy
[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_01]: we need to know it's going to be a fight
[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and we need to prepare for that battle.
[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a one-time preparation either.
[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a daily battle
[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and a daily choice to keep fighting for that goal.
[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_01]: A life of convenience is a choice for bad health.
[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Another thing that really stood out to me
[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_01]: is that Kim made sure that we all realize
[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_01]: that it isn't just the strength benefit
[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_01]: of the weightlifting but also the mental health benefits
[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_01]: which she felt were the biggest benefit of all.
[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So what stood out to you?
[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I would love to hear from you as always.
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I hope this episode helps at least one person
[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and with that I hope you have a blessed week in my friend.
[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for listening to The Beauty in the Mass.
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[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_01]: If you have any questions or comments
[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_01]: and a topic I did you'd like to hear about
[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_01]: or you'd be a great guest on the show.
[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You can reach me directly at The Beauty in the Mass.com.
[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for listening.

