Ep. 58 Navigating Personal Growth with Jill Wright

[00:00:03] I'm Michele Simms and this is The Beauty in the Mess, a community where people who crave a shift in mindset, personal growth, and connection to like-minded people come together to start rewriting their stories. Through engaging, honest, and insightful conversations, the show will help you embrace

[00:00:22] the mess to recognize the meanings and the lessons it holds and discover its hidden treasures to help you start making a mindset shift. Let's listen, learn, and reclaim who we were meant to be. Hi, friend. Welcome to The Beauty in the Mess.

[00:00:38] For this episode, I'm very happy to have Jill Wright with me on the show today. Jill is a professional speaker and she's author of the book Happy, Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise and host of Grow Like a Mother podcast.

[00:00:51] She speaks to organizations and working moms on topics ranging from time management to goal setting, from self-care to following your intuition. She has hosted workshops on a variety of topics, including showing up as your authentic self, personal development, manifesting your dreams, and how to use energetics to

[00:01:10] your advantage. Jill's style is authentic, engaging, and fun. She is casual enough to relate to the audience in a real way and she packs a punch with the quality of information she brings to each event. There's usually a little bit of swearing and a whole lot of laughter.

[00:01:26] Hi, I'm Michele Simms, your host. I'm just a regular person who along with my family have had our share of messes that we too have had to overcome. Along the way, I got curious as to how others get through their messes and even triumph over them.

[00:01:40] Maybe there's a better way, a faster way. Maybe we can accelerate our journeys by learning from someone else. That started my pursuit. I think we can all learn from each other through the sharing of our experiences, lessons, and knowledge.

[00:01:53] So join me for episode 58 of the Beauty and the Mess called Navigating Personal Growth with Jill Wright. So without further ado, let's dive right into today's conversation. Hi, Jill. Welcome to the Beauty and the Mess. I'm so glad to have you with us today.

[00:02:11] It's my pleasure to be here, Michele. Thank you for having me. Oh, thank you. Now, I know you're an author and a speaker and a podcaster as well. But before we start talking about all of that today, I was hoping you would tell us some of your backstory.

[00:02:24] Like, how did you get to where you are in life? Yeah. What led you down this path? It's a long and windy one, I think as most of them are, right? I would say for me, the sort of turning point in my life happened during the pandemic.

[00:02:38] I had been in corporate hospitality career up until that point and I was just finishing maternity leave with my second child and I didn't want to go back into that events-based world where hours were wonky and I had to commute downtown.

[00:02:52] And so I decided I was going to try entrepreneurship, something I always wanted to do. I had a business degree, right? And I got started opening up this little thrift store in my hometown. And then, right about two weeks before I was meant to open the

[00:03:06] pandemic started and the world kind of shut down. And so I found myself in this position where I had no daycare. I couldn't get my business license because it was still in waiting. It had been submitted, but I couldn't open.

[00:03:17] Even if I could open, who knows how many people we were allowed to have in and did we have to wear masks? It was so up in the air. And at the same time, I was suffering quite badly from postpartum

[00:03:28] depression and anxiety and my eldest son was being diagnosed with autism and there was just a lot of stuff happening. Wow, that is a lot. At the same time. Yeah, it's a busy time and it kind of made me realize

[00:03:43] that I couldn't control any of the external circumstances. And I really needed to dig in if I was going to sort of survive the chaos of what was happening around me. And so that's when I kind of started my personal development journey

[00:03:56] and it's led me along a path I didn't expect, but it includes, of course, my podcast and my book and all the coaching I do. I know you talk a lot about living authentically. What does that really mean? For me, that means knowing that you're making decisions

[00:04:15] from your inner knowing rather than based on what someone else may be expecting of you or a comparison that you've made with someone else or a should that you've somewhere along the line made up for yourself. There's so many different forces that can guide us without us

[00:04:33] really knowing unless we're intentional about day to day, what kind of actions are we taking? What kind of words are we speaking? Living in alignment to me with your goals and your values is living authentically and being really able to be unapologetic about it.

[00:04:51] It's a bit of a skill. It takes a lot of practice. It sounds like a skill. I am wondering how you help people like break free of their comfort zone because it's so tough to give up what's familiar, even if it's not so great for something that's unknown

[00:05:06] because you really don't know how things are going to play out. Yeah, it's really interesting because that's exactly the job of our ego and our brain, right is to stay safe. Even if it's not great, it's familiar and that is safe because we know it.

[00:05:18] And so it takes a lot of mindset work. That's usually where I'll start. There's lots of tools that we can use to sort of slowly reprogram our subconscious mind so that we're rewriting the stories how we want life to be for ourselves.

[00:05:32] And in slowly doing that, it's not an overnight fix, of course, but when you start to make those changes in your mind, you start to look for changes in your reality. And when you see those changes happening,

[00:05:44] it reinforces the fact that the mindset work you're doing is working and then you really start to dig in and believe it and then it snowballs from there. So there's also a lot of I think time management that comes into it

[00:05:59] because as much as we might want to work on changing something about ourselves, many of us don't know how to find the time to do that or even where to begin. So it's goal setting work, it's time management work,

[00:06:10] and it's mindset work all rolled into one sort of process. I know your podcast deals a lot with moms and I think it's really for any woman, probably men too, but society has programmed us, I think, to feel like you're being selfish to spend time on yourself.

[00:06:27] So how do you break that mindset? Self-care is a big, it's a hot, it's like a buzzword right now, right? Like everyone's talking about self-care and what is it really and what does it mean to you?

[00:06:39] And I mean, at the end of the day, I think, especially for moms, it's really hard to put ourselves first. We've been used to doing the opposite for so long, whether we intended to or not,

[00:06:51] whether it was like overtly told to us that we should be doing it that way or not. We've stumbled upon this situation where we're all caring for others and we forgot how to care for ourselves. So again, it's just the practice of small steps, right?

[00:07:07] Asking for help is a really difficult thing for a lot of moms. And so starting small by getting help here or there doesn't have to be help that you've paid for, right? It can just be like, hey, you know, depending on the age

[00:07:22] of your kids, can you make your bed today? Can the spouse do the dishes? Can the grandma come over for an hour and watch the kids color so that you can go xyz, whatever it is for you, that you would consider to be like self-care.

[00:07:36] So do you believe that we all have a destined purpose in life? Or do you think we create our purpose? I'm just curious of what your view on that is. Such a good question. I think that we all have lessons to learn in our life.

[00:07:54] And so with free choice, we may have to learn those lessons or go through the process of learning the lessons over and over and over until we really get it. And that's why we see patterns in people, I believe. Right.

[00:08:08] So if you are someone who suffers all the time from, I don't know, an easy one would be like bad relationships and you're like, oh, that guy was a jerk. Oh, the next guy was every guy is a jerk, right?

[00:08:19] And you just can't find that relationship you're looking for to me that your lesson to learn is something around self-worth or something around using your voice and speaking for yourself or whatever, you know, that the common denominator within the relationships would be.

[00:08:35] And so I find it really interesting digging into the patterns people see in their lives because that tells me about what lessons they're here to learn. And the reason we keep going through these and not learning it is because we have that free will like we it's like

[00:08:49] intuition. I always say it's always there but you don't have to listen to it. You know, you don't have to do what it says, but it's always there for you. Yeah, and I think it's interesting too, because I think

[00:08:58] you see a lot of women especially that don't set boundaries and so then not only are you fighting yourself when you finally decide to try to set boundaries and do self-care but everybody around you now has different expectations and they don't want you to set boundaries.

[00:09:18] You know what I mean? They're used to you being the way you are. Yeah, or the way you have been. Yeah, and that's the toughest part because then again what we're putting ourselves in that people-pleasing kind of situation. We're putting that hat back on right now.

[00:09:31] We're caring for others over ourselves again, which prevents a lot of women from moving forward and doing the things that they want to do or taking care of themselves in any kind of way or like you said creating those boundaries.

[00:09:43] It's really hard because I remember learning about boundaries when I was 32 years old and I didn't know that they existed. I didn't know that was a thing I could do. I had no idea that I was allowed to create boundaries in

[00:09:57] situations or with people or anything and it was a bit of a learning curve for me as I think it is for most. Like I went really heavy on the boundary setting and pissed a lot of people off.

[00:10:07] I think because I was just learning how to do it and that can set a lot of people back, right? It does upset a lot of people and I hadn't thought about what you just said, but maybe it's because it's

[00:10:18] too fast and furious when we first try or maybe it's that they're used to you not having any boundaries. It could be a combination. I think it's both. Yeah, I mean if you think about it, right? I always bring it back to like the kids.

[00:10:32] If I set a boundary for my kids is basically their job to kick against it to see if I'm going to hold it right and so it needs to be my job to really be strong in that boundary and so I always

[00:10:42] tell people like if you're starting just choose one that you know, you can stick to that's like so important to you and it might be scary to talk about it and tell people and you might lose some relationships or you might have some friction and

[00:10:58] you have to be able to sit with the discomfort knowing that the boundary is more important than losing the negativity of whatever situation you're trying to get away from it. You're trying to improve because sitting with this comfort is something that we're really bad at in general.

[00:11:13] Oh, you nailed that. I think it's very hard to do. We all are we're comfort-seeking creatures. I think and even in my own life, I don't like discomfort, especially the emotional. I can handle physical discomfort, but that emotional part, especially when you're dealing with friction from other people.

[00:11:38] It's hard. It's hard because we take on responsibility for their reactions, right? True and it's something that I hear often. You're not responsible for anyone else's emotions and it took me really long time to understand that one and I'm like, yeah, but if I did something

[00:11:53] that made that person sad mad upset, whatever. How am I not responsible for that thing? And then I kept hearing about examples like two people watching the exact same movie. They're in the same theater. They watched the same movie, but then they come

[00:12:07] out and one thought it was the worst movie that they had ever seen and one was in tears crying because they found it so profound, right? So this is a situation that they've been exposed to but it's how they interpreted it to determine their feeling about it.

[00:12:20] And so I sort of look at it now, like if I'm setting a boundary, if I'm trying to take time for myself or self-care or if I'm doing anything that other people maybe don't agree with. I try to look at it from the perspective

[00:12:33] of like how they are interpreting my actions is based on their history, their feeling that day, their own emotional state. There's a lot of factors that I can't actually control. So what I tell myself is as long as I'm going into things and making changes with good

[00:12:52] intention and sort of based on harmony and highest good for me and my family or whoever's involved, then I have a bit of an easier time releasing that guilt for potential reaction from somebody. Yeah, so hard though. That's another tough one. Yeah.

[00:13:13] Oh, I know you're a big advocate of personal development. So what do you suggest like if someone's just starting out? What I mean to me, there are so many facets that we can work on. Yeah, what's the first thing someone should do to try to make life easier?

[00:13:31] I think that really depends on what speaks to them and what interests them because there are so many people talking about personal development and personal growth and self-improvement, self-help and all of these things and they're not all going to resonate with you.

[00:13:48] And so the first thing I like to encourage people to do is just get out and go to the library, look at some books, get a few podcasts, you know, go on YouTube and search some keywords and just see if there are people even one person

[00:14:02] to start to follow and listen to that you can resonate with and then generally if it's a podcaster or somebody like that, they may have interviews. They may have other people coming on the show and then you might follow that person

[00:14:16] and you might go down a rabbit hole that way and just follow your interest. That's good advice actually. So I know you talk a lot about, I'm curious about this one. I saw where you talk about using energetics to your advantage. What does that mean?

[00:14:31] So it gets a little bit woo when I talk about energetics, but the idea being that we all have vibrational frequency. We can call it a mood. We can call it an emotion. We can call it whatever, right? But we all feel different different

[00:14:45] times of day and that feeling in your body. We can sort of give a vibration. And so if we learn to be able to harness the higher vibrations are the ones that make us feel good and manage the lower vibrating emotions or the ones that sort of drag

[00:15:04] us down and make us feel anxious or bad then we have a lot of control on how our day goes because we're not going through being led by our emotions and thrown into these crazy energies. And then I mean if you're familiar with the law of attraction,

[00:15:18] if you're in a lower vibration energy, you're going to attract lower vibration kind of people situation circumstances things into your life. Whereas if you're in a higher vibration, you're going to attract higher vibration people situations opportunities into your life. And so if you can be conscious

[00:15:35] of where you're vibrating and use your energetics to your advantage, then you can start to shape and create the life that you want and kind of snowballs from there. And there's a lot of different lot of different things you can do just like protect your

[00:15:48] energy or it's really just imaginary mind work at the end of the day. Energy is there whether we want to work with it or not whether we know how to work with it or not and it's a really deep topic we can dive into but it's a really

[00:16:01] interesting one that I'm learning a lot about right now. So how do you change your energy like it says something horrible happened or you feel as horrible and you're down. I mean, is it like meditation or what tool do you use to try to change from

[00:16:18] sad to happy or mad to happy? So the first thing I like to say is you don't need to go from sad to happy. You just need to think of different emotions like on a scale like a ruler and you just need to go to the next

[00:16:30] one up. Okay, like you don't need to get out from sad to happy. You just need to go from sad to frustrated maybe right. Okay, and think about it on a small scale like that, but a lot of somatic tools are really good.

[00:16:43] So I have what I call an attitude adjustment playlist and it's just a bunch of songs on my Spotify where I know that they're going to get me singing or dancing even if I'm in a rotten mood. I'll just turn it on and something about physical

[00:16:57] movement can shake up energy as well as like vocal expressions. So whether you're yelling or singing or whatever those things can really help if you bring your body into it can help shift your energy a lot quicker. And for me, it's usually like two or three songs and

[00:17:12] my mood is improved. I've been able to really sort of let go of whatever emotion that was bothering me and it works that quickly for almost everyone who's tried it. You know, it's really a cool tool to have this playlist at your disposal, you know?

[00:17:26] Yeah, and I like just going incrementally instead of trying to go from one extreme to the other. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's not realistic, right? I'm all about keeping things realistic. It's not realistic. It's small steps because this is an ongoing

[00:17:43] journey. It's not like no one is ever going to master their mindset. We're all human, right? We're all going to have days where things are just crappy and we don't feel like doing the work or we can't turn the other cheek or whatever the case is.

[00:17:55] And so if we can give ourselves some grace and just try for that 1% better. James Clear who talks about habits talks about 1% improvements every day and over the course of a year, you're going to be amazed how much improvement you've made, but it doesn't

[00:18:10] have to feel like a big leap. You know, just consistency. Yeah, I like that. So I heard you mentioned the word somatic. Do you also use like breath work for that kind of? I do. Yeah, I really like I'm not an expert in it. I'm very much a

[00:18:28] student right now in meditation and in breath work, but I find guided recordings really help me. I'll find someone I like or someone I know that I'm working with a coach or through a program. Sometimes just people on YouTube or on podcast and I'll go

[00:18:44] and do I'll just keep them handy and pop on a breath work exercise or a 10 minute meditation. There's a really good app called meditation minis and they're just 10 minute meditation structured or intended to be done throughout the workday just at your desk, you know why some of

[00:18:59] them are like waking meditations where you don't even need to close your eyes, but they just reset because meditation for me and for many is so difficult. And again, the expectation to just clear your mind of everything is so unrealistic. That's just not how our brains work and

[00:19:14] we get frustrated and we give up and you don't get the benefits. So if you can have someone sort of walking you through it same with breath work. I don't know enough to be able to choose the right breathwork technique because there are so many but it's

[00:19:27] really powerful to have. I mean the internet at our disposal that we can learn from people who do know about it who could be on the other side of the world and we get that benefit right in our pocket. Very true. So I would like to

[00:19:41] talk about your book for a moment too. And I know you said that there's four pillars or four tips from your book that you can share with us also. So if you tell us about your book, that would be great. Thanks. Yeah, it's actually been quite a labor

[00:19:56] of love. I started this book as it is now, but I started it when I was 20 years old as a Word document on my computer just recording pieces of personal development books and stories and tips from my therapist. I was having bad anxiety and I just started this

[00:20:11] document to refer back to because I found that when I was in the moment of anxiety or of worry or fear or whatever, I couldn't think of the tools that I had learned. It was like my whole brain just went blank and I couldn't find any

[00:20:23] of those resources I had learned. So I put them down on paper or in my computer and I would just pull them up. And as the years went on and I got deeper and deeper, I just kept adding to this and I called it like my happiness book.

[00:20:35] At some point along the way I realized like this really does need to be a book because it can be helpful for other people too, because it's quite an assortment like the collection. I've got these tips and tricks and pieces of wisdom from all different people,

[00:20:49] from all different modalities, from all different age groups, like just it's wild. It's a wild collection and none of it's like my own personal thought and I feel like a reporter kind of putting it all together. And so I had intended it to be kind of a page-a-day

[00:21:05] calendar almost. Oh wow, that's neat. That's what I had envisioned for it because I just wanted a lot of white space, maybe a beautiful graphic and just one line or one paragraph that someone could think on. Not overwhelming, just one thing. Right. One thing a day kind of.

[00:21:23] But then I didn't want them to be thrown away and I thought I have to find a better way to package this. So the book kind of came about in that and there are the four pillars, happy, healthy, wealthy, and wise. And within that, it's not a book

[00:21:36] where you read cover to cover. You can flip it open at any point in time and just read like within whatever pillar you're looking to sort of have some inspiration in and put it down and just ponder on that one thing for the day, you know,

[00:21:52] or for a few days and then pick it up again and try something else because it goes back to that small steps, right? We don't want to overwhelm ourselves. If we read a whole book, I've been guilty of this, reading a whole book and then being paralyzed because

[00:22:06] there was too much information and not implementing anything, right? Or going to a conference and coming home on fire and wanting to do all these things for your business and then you do nothing because you're overwhelmed. So the book's pretty light. It's definitely meant to be a companion

[00:22:19] guide and I thought it would be fun instead of coming prepared with four, like one tip from each, just use it as it's intended and flip it open and just see what we come up with. Does that work for you? Oh, yeah. That sounds neat. Cool.

[00:22:34] I like it. All right. So I'm going to open it up to a page on the happy pillar. Okay. So as you can see, they're just like this is the page. Okay. Just short. Yeah. So this one is called Keep happiness close at hand. Literally.

[00:22:52] I want you to start a collection of things that make you smile. Cute animal videos, pictures of your family and friends, good songs. This can be a file on your computer or a shoebox in your closet with photographs and mixtapes. The point is to have

[00:23:05] a collection of things that either make you happy or represent a time when you experience joy. Put tickets in from that baseball game when you caught a fly ball or save an image of the team. Having a place to go when you need a happiness boost

[00:23:18] is not only convenient but a surefire way to improve your mood when you're feeling down and out. That's neat. So that's the type of thing that you'll get. If I flip over to healthy, this one's called create some energy. So this is kind of in line

[00:23:32] with what we were talking about earlier with energetics. It says energy isn't something that just comes to you. You make it. Go ahead and dance, sing, jump, workout, stretch, whatever makes you come alive. Move your body for a few minutes to get that energy flowing.

[00:23:47] And then there's a quote at the bottom of each page. There's a quote or an affirmation and this one is from Brendan Burchard and he says the power plant does not have energy. It generates energy. That's good. I always love that one. Wealthy, it's funny.

[00:24:02] Wealthy rhymed very well in the title, of course, happy, healthy, wealthy and wise. But the way that I view wealth is more sort of under the umbrella of abundance. And so this chapter isn't about how to save your nickels and dimes and what to invest in.

[00:24:15] It's about how to really fill your cup up and feel abundant in all of the areas of your life, in your relationships, in your career, in your finances, in your self-care and your friendships in all the different areas. So here's one that says money is a lousy way

[00:24:31] of keeping score. Focus instead on the other areas of your life where you feel abundant, your career, your relationships, your education, etc. There are so many other measuring sticks to judge yourself against rather than simply the financial side. And then the last pillar is wise because

[00:24:47] wisdom I think is something I've always aspired to have and so for example, let's see, this one says one coin, two sides. Someone else's view might not match yours, but that doesn't mean they are wrong or that you are wrong. You can view things differently and still

[00:25:06] both be right. Each person's personal beliefs and views are their own and don't impact you. So even if they differ, they are true for that person in their current circumstances based on their history and experience. The same way that your views are for you. So it's funny the

[00:25:23] ones that came up just as we flipped through were really relevant to things that we had already discussed today. It is. I would like to ask, like I know you talked about time management. So do you recommend and do you practice making time every day for yourself

[00:25:39] and how much does that need to be for self-care? So I go at it a bit of a different way. I schedule one hour a week and that's what I recommend to people and it doesn't have to be the same hour and the same day every week.

[00:25:53] But if you are weekly planner like I am and you're looking ahead in your week, just find one hour. Because if you want to do something that's more regulated or more regular, like let's say a yoga class for your self-care and it's every Wednesday at 5.

[00:26:10] There's going to be Wednesdays when you're too busy. There's going to be Wednesdays when you're sick. It's going to be Wednesdays where you just who knows what happens and you don't feel like going or you can't make it. Right. And you want to set yourself up

[00:26:22] for a little bit of failure by being so stringent with your self-care. So if you set an hour, whatever works for you that week and you show up with no plan of what you're doing but come with a list. I always have a list of like self-care activities.

[00:26:36] Oh wow. So you can show up and say what do I feel like doing today? That's pretty neat. I never thought about having a list. And that's how I work it in. That's a good idea. So it's just things that you can do on your own at home

[00:26:49] or does your list include shopping or other anything? Yeah, it can be anything like having a nap. Reading a book. Calling your best friends. Baking cookies. Going for a walk. Buying something for yourself. Getting a manicure. Whatever it looks like for you. I like that actually because

[00:27:06] I know I've heard different people say like set aside 15 minutes a day, a half hour a day and some days you literally just can't. Nope. So then you're like, I forgive this. I can't do it. Right. And then you broken your momentum and then it's like you can't

[00:27:21] then you feel badly about yourself and you take on that sort of disappointment or shame or whatever you attribute to your failure to show up for yourself. And it's just one more thing stacked against you, you know? Right. And another tip that I give people with regards to

[00:27:35] their self-care list is put and their to-do list actually as well but next to the task write down how many minutes it's going to take to accomplish and that really helps you when you're showing up for an hour you can think, okay, well do I want to

[00:27:47] do like one really long thing or do I want to fit a few things into my self-care hour. And you can choose your activities Sometimes you might only have 20 minutes and you think, oh, I'll just scroll on Instagram because I can't actually get anything done in 20 minutes.

[00:28:03] But if you looked at your list and there was two 10-minute tasks, you could cross those off and feel way better about how you spent those 20 minutes than just scrolling aimlessly, right? Oh, absolutely. You've got to be intentional. So on the mind shift, mindset shifts, do you

[00:28:17] feel like it's more an issue of reframing like looking at your situations in a different way or is it actually changing your mindset? It's reframing to start. You have to sort of fake it till you make it. That's why affirmations are really good because your subconscious mind will

[00:28:34] just believe whatever you tell it and it doesn't know the difference in whether you want something or not or whether it's past, present, future, whether you're really there or it's imaginary, like that's why anxiety is such a killer because your body really thinks you're there in that moment,

[00:28:48] right? Right. In that future trip, and you're in your room and you're just feeling anxious. So affirmations work really well because you can get in the habit of saying them and the more that you say them, the more that your brain thinks that they're true and then

[00:29:06] there's a part of your brain called the reticular activating system that want its whole jobs to go into the world and filter information because there's so much coming at us, filter information based on what you've told your brain is important

[00:29:53] manage not only being a mom, but being a mom of a special needs child because I know that takes more time and more devotion, more everything. Yeah, it does. And the way that you do it is by taking care of yourself so that you have the energy to

[00:30:08] show up and by asking for help and by bringing in community and by giving yourself grace for things that can't be top of priority list like keeping a spotless house has long gone out the window for me. The house is clean. I don't live in a house. Well,

[00:30:23] it's sometimes messy. Yeah. So I think that for me is the biggest way I do it is just making sure that I give myself grace. I give my kiddos grace and prioritize based on my values instead of what I think should be a priority for me. That's great.

[00:30:43] Yeah. So do you want to talk about your podcast for a minute to let folks know about it? Sure. Thanks. Yeah. It's called Grow Like A Mother. So it's about I love the title, by the way. Thank you. Yeah. It's really fun. It's just personal development for moms.

[00:30:59] It's just things that we can talk about that we're going through that we all experience. We talk about everything from postpartum depression to ADHD kids to time management and goal setting and just all the things all in one spot. Is there anything we haven't talked about today

[00:31:17] that you would like to make sure that our listeners here? I know we hit a bunch different. Yeah, I think we had everything. The book is available November 26. That's awesome. Congratulations. Which is going to be a really fun adventure. And then yeah, the podcast is a really

[00:31:34] fun place to join me in conversation and just be with other moms who might be going through the same kind of stuff you are. Yeah, I love that. I think connection is more important than ever. So yeah, definitely. So if someone's listening is it your website? Is it

[00:31:54] on social media? Both, I think. The website is jillwright.ca Super easy. You can find all the details there. And I like to hang out on Instagram and Facebook. And my handle there is Grow Like a Mother. That's it. I do love that. So cute. Thanks. Well,

[00:32:11] I appreciate all of your wisdom and everything that you shared with us today. And I've just really enjoyed having you on the show. So thank you so much. Well, thanks for the opportunity. It's been so nice chatting with you. Absolutely. As we wrap up today's episode, I hope

[00:32:28] Jill sharing her knowledge, experience, and wisdom has helped you in some way. I think one of the main takeaways for me was that self care is often overlooked by many of us, but it is so important. Self-care can be just taking a walk in the park to setting

[00:32:43] boundaries in life to getting enough sleep. It encompasses so many things. For women, especially, I think we're trained caregivers. So we prioritize everyone and everything above ourselves, and we need to learn to start giving back to ourselves. Time management was another important issue that's often overlooked. We

[00:33:04] use the fact that we don't have enough time. A lot of times as an excuse when really we just don't manage our time well, and to be honest, we probably don't try to manage our time. At least that's the case for many of us. I know not everyone

[00:33:18] is that way. I think it's important to continue the path of personal development for all of us to keep learning, keep growing, and it begins with self- reflection, and I would also say self- awareness, because learning your own weaknesses and strengths can do wonders for your journey.

[00:33:36] So what stood out for you today? I would love to hear from you. As always, I hope this episode helps at least one person, and with that, I hope you have a blessed week, my friend. Thank you for listening If you enjoyed what you heard, please share it

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